• @ezchili@iusearchlinux.fyi
    link
    fedilink
    English
    268 months ago

    Either emulation is legal and you’re therefore okay with devs getting payment for tgeir labor or it’s illegal and they need to keep as low a profile as they can

    I hate people who try to be on both sides

    • 520
      link
      fedilink
      198 months ago

      The monetisation part wasn’t what fucked them over, it was merely what made their more illicit activities worse.

      The Yuzu team were using leaks to tweak their code, namely the ToTK leak.

      • @SkyNTP@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        English
        -6
        edit-2
        8 months ago

        IP law is at it’s core about monetization and developer compensation. The legality of emulation absolutely hinges on whether or not the alleged infringement is monetized.

        • @gaylord_fartmaster@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          78 months ago

          The legality of emulation absolutely hinges on whether or not the alleged infringement is monetized.

          You are absolutely mistaken. See Sony’s lawsuits against Connectix and Bleem!, which were both commercial products, and Sony lost every lawsuit they filed against them.

          I don’t know where you and the other thousands of people parroting this online are getting this from, but it is not true and never has been.

        • Schadrach
          link
          fedilink
          English
          68 months ago

          The legality of emulation absolutely hinges on whether or not the alleged infringement is monetized.

          Sony lost all of their suits against Bleem!, sorry but it’s not illegal to monetize an emulator. The rampant piracy they were engaging in and essentially promoting is what fucked them. Including using leaks to test their emulator against and patch issues with games that hadn’t been released yet. There’s been talk that they also had a ROM stash on their discord.

        • 520
          link
          fedilink
          48 months ago

          Nope. There have been monetised emulators before that have been deemed legal (see Bleem!)

          Also if you break copyright law, the rights holder can come after you regardless if you are making money or not.

    • @nanoUFO@sh.itjust.worksOPM
      link
      fedilink
      English
      38 months ago

      I agree but pay walling features is just asking for trouble, I should of specified what I meant with pateron.

      • Chewy
        link
        fedilink
        English
        1
        edit-2
        8 months ago

        The features weren’t exactly paywalled, as the source code was always available. They merely provided beta builds to patreons, that were also available free of charge by someone else [1].

        ~~[1] https://github.com/pineappleEA/pineapple-src/releases~~

        Selling emulators is legal, as far as we know (been a while since the last ruling). If it’s true what others have pointed out, that yuzu devs were distributing copyrighted material in their public discord and talking open about privacy, then Nintendo has support for their argument that yuzu was intentionally designed to circumvent copy protection and purposely facilitates piracy.

        • @nanoUFO@sh.itjust.worksOPM
          link
          fedilink
          English
          18 months ago

          Isn’t pineapple just stealing the builds from pateron and did they release the current source code or did that get released after pateron build went public. I didn’t really keep track of it.

          • Chewy
            link
            fedilink
            English
            28 months ago

            You’re likely right, it seems like they made use of the code being open-source and distributed it freely after getting access through patreon. Each commit is quite big with all the source code changes of the specific early access build.