Wow, someone actually finally managed to force Trump to pay a bill.

  • @Atom@lemmy.world
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    He’s still not actually paying her. He’s just securing a bond that lets him avoid paying while he seeks an appeal. Just keep kicking the can down the road.

    “Donald J. Trump on Friday posted a $91.6 million bond in a defamation case he recently lost to the writer E. Jean Carroll, staving off a potential legal and financial disaster just days before a deadline to secure the deal. The bond, provided by an outside insurance company, will prevent Ms. Carroll from collecting the judgment while Mr. Trump appeals.”

    • Billiam
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      879 months ago

      The bond, provided by an outside insurance company,

      Someone better name some fucking names, cause I wanna make sure I don’t do business with an insurance company that is that bad at risk assessment.

    • @UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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      He’s just securing a bond that lets him avoid paying while he seeks an appeal.

      Forcing Trump to come up with $92M he doesn’t have so he can’t completely welch when his appeals fail is funny enough that it was probably worth Carroll’s time.

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      9 months ago

      She’s going to get her money now though. I wonder what sort of collateral he had to put up to secure this bond. I don’t know if I’d want to be the insurance company trying to get that collateral back after all his legal cases leave him bankrupt.

      • @Atom@lemmy.world
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        149 months ago

        Right, not disputing that at all. I’m just saying he’s (or whoever is footing the bill) a long way from actually paying anyone their due.

        • @RegalPotoo@lemmy.world
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          379 months ago

          The point of the bond is that if the appeal fails, the court just hands the money over - shes probably more likely to see the cash this way than if he didn’t appeal.

          Appeals court doesn’t give you a “do over” - they don’t try the case again, they don’t re-decide facts. Appeals court lets you argue that the previous court made an error in procedure. Given how competent Carrols’ lawyers were and how totally incompetent Trump’s were, I doubt they will be able to find anything.

          • @cheese_greater@lemmy.world
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            So whats the end game? Like ofc delay, but I don’t get it unless this is like the Saudis taking a multi-billion loss on helping Muskovitch aquire Twitter cuz there’s no limit to the upside of them dismantling an ongoing threat to them.

            Like his debt and legal problems are nothing on the nation-state actor level, this is all horrifying in that light. Lots of dirty, dumb shit happening. His appeals are hopeless, he must be planning on violently dismantling their abillity to enforce it

            • @Revan343@lemmy.ca
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              So whats the end game?

              Win or steal the presidency, and convert the position to king, probably.

              • @Mirshe@lemmy.world
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                9 months ago

                Basically this. His endgame plan is “become president, get the DOJ or Congress or the SC to rule he can’t be made to pay for anything”.

            • @RegalPotoo@lemmy.world
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              169 months ago

              He’s not playing 4D chess. This isn’t some master plan. He is appealing because his choices are:

              • Appeal, put the bond up, hope he can stall for a while and maybe something comes up, probably loose later
              • Accept the verdict, loose now and either;
                • Pay the judgement
                • Refuse to pay the judgement and have people who cannot be threatened, bullied or argued with come seize assets
              • @cheese_greater@lemmy.world
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                9 months ago

                I’m more referring to whoever’s enabling this by doing his bond for him, how do they expect to be paid back? He’s lost the 2 (maybe 3) battles of this “war” already

                • @RegalPotoo@lemmy.world
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                  59 months ago
                  • $90 million isn’t that much money if you are a large company and want the president of the US to owe you a favour.
                  • The CEO of Chubb had a pretty cushy white house role under trump, maybe this is a favour being repaid at the expense of Chubbs shareholders

                  Either way, most other countries call this corruption

            • Instigate
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              At this point Trump is trying to delay everything he can until the presidential election, because he’s hoping that he’ll win again which will give him some kind of immunity against civil and criminal prosecution for another four years. I assume he thinks he’ll get into power and arbitrarily change laws to try to exonerate himself, despite the fact that that won’t really work because he’s being sued/tried under state laws, but I don’t think he’s smart enough to figure that out.

              • Also he will sell himself and the country to whoever will pay in a way that he can get it. Then use that to pay off his bills. Plus, I don’t think he plans on ever leaving the white house if he gets in this time. And at his age, he might be right, just in a different way than he imagines.