• macabrett[they/them]
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    910 months ago

    “gonna own the people I keep calling a threat to democracy by doing exactly what they want and then telling them they’re stupid for not voting for it”

    • Omega
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      -910 months ago

      Biden HAS TO listen to the American people. And the American people are demanding that he do something. If he doesn’t, they will put in someone who does.

      Sure the GOP has forced the issue into people’s heads. But Biden HAS TO face that reality.

        • Omega
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          -610 months ago

          He’s fucked up with Gaza. It’s the one thing I think he has absolutely failed on. But I don’t think the politics are that straightforward with it. Demanding a total ceasefire probably isn’t good politics. And they wouldn’t stop anyways.

          Demanding a stoppage to the genocide is definitely good politics. But Biden has been a behind the scenes president which works better for influencing Republicans who will dig their heels in if called out. But it has failed here and he needs to acknowledge that. They haven’t listened to anything from him since the hostage release.

          • @ComradeChairmanKGB@lemmygrad.ml
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            10 months ago

            Surely you can see how this comment is a severe contradiction to your original assertion, yes?

            Biden HAS TO listen to the American people.

            Does he ‘HAVE TO’ or not?

          • queermunist she/her
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            410 months ago

            A total ceasefire is the only way to stop the genocide. Surely you realize this?

            Also, we can’t possibly know what’s happening behind the scenes. What his administration is saying is happening behind the scenes could very well be a total lie. Until I hear him publicly demand a ceasefire I’m going to assume that he supports the genocide.

      • macabrett[they/them]
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        510 months ago

        Wait, so now the GOP is reflecting reality that Biden has to face? Getting really confused over here and starting to feel like I don’t live in a democracy.

        • Omega
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          -710 months ago

          Did you just discover narratives? I can’t really telling because you said “GOP is reflecting” which isn’t really true and not what I said. But maybe that’s what you meant?

          Biden has to respond to the narrative. The narrative is there because of the GOP. They’re setting it.

          Democrats do the same. But they’re usually not as good at it since they are expected to be truthful.

          (eg GOP lies about immigrants being evil. DNC gives warnings about abortion that come true.)

            • Omega
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              -810 months ago

              They don’t do what the GOP wants. But they do have to respond to the narrative in some way. Otherwise the people will elect the GOP who will make things MUCH, MUCH worse.

              Same way that the GOP is now freaking out about IVF. Suddenly their anti-choice policies look so much worse. And if they don’t do something, more Democrats will be elected and we will enact more pro-choice legislation.

      • @Hoomod@lemmy.world
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        010 months ago

        Democrats gave Republicans everything they wanted on the border in exchange for funding Ukraine

        And then orange man said no, so the Republicans said “well now I am not doing it”

        And so here we are, with both sidesists screaming that Biden has to do something about the “border crisis” when the Republicans have shot down their own bills

        • Omega
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          -210 months ago

          Both sides of voters were already screaming at Biden.

          If you think Republicans got everything they wanted, you’re really not paying attention to what they want.