I believe we have reached the end of what can be said based on facts. If you think that genocide joe, despite his fervent zionism, despite his enthusiastic support for the ongoing ethnic cleansing in palestine, even finding ways around congress to support it, that he still is a reasonable candidate who would help the left in the US get to a position of power where they can enact meaningful change, even though you agree he isn’t a progressive leftist that would do anything a leftist person would do, then I dont know what else I have to say.
Have a nice slide into fascism while voting for harm reduction that never seems to come.
Vote third party or dont vote unless the dems get their shit together. Thats the only thing that gets them to do anything. Failing that nothing will change, you can wring your hands and lament the current state of affairs, but the only thing that makes any material difference is in how you vote.
The real solution of course is communist revolution, so get organizing with others in order to mitigate the effects of the current slide into fascism, but if you keep voting “blue no matter who” you have effectively given up on representative democracy.
Either genuinely deluded or genuinely disingenuous.
If there wasn’t the massive existential threat of Christo-fascist authoritarian rule in the US then I might say ok, sure, go ahead and vote for a third party.
How do you think this plays out? The republicans aren’t going to run anyone better, so the dems only have to run someone who isn’t openly as bad as their candidate since people like you will vote for them anyway. They are ineffective in stopping the christofascism, they are not a neutralization of that threat, the last 4 years have made that very clear.
And they never will be unless you give them a reason to get to work. It will continue to get worse if you keep voting them in, it just does not work. They have to change but they wont unless there is a reason to.
I believe we have reached the end of what can be said based on facts. If you think that genocide joe, despite his fervent zionism, despite his enthusiastic support for the ongoing ethnic cleansing in palestine, even finding ways around congress to support it, that he still is a reasonable candidate who would help the left in the US get to a position of power where they can enact meaningful change, even though you agree he isn’t a progressive leftist that would do anything a leftist person would do, then I dont know what else I have to say.
Have a nice slide into fascism while voting for harm reduction that never seems to come.
So would you have us vote for Trump?!?! I’m not sure of what your solution is.
Vote third party or dont vote unless the dems get their shit together. Thats the only thing that gets them to do anything. Failing that nothing will change, you can wring your hands and lament the current state of affairs, but the only thing that makes any material difference is in how you vote.
The real solution of course is communist revolution, so get organizing with others in order to mitigate the effects of the current slide into fascism, but if you keep voting “blue no matter who” you have effectively given up on representative democracy.
Oh you are a silly sausage aren’t you?
Either genuinely deluded or genuinely disingenuous.
If there wasn’t the massive existential threat of Christo-fascist authoritarian rule in the US then I might say ok, sure, go ahead and vote for a third party.
How do you think this plays out? The republicans aren’t going to run anyone better, so the dems only have to run someone who isn’t openly as bad as their candidate since people like you will vote for them anyway. They are ineffective in stopping the christofascism, they are not a neutralization of that threat, the last 4 years have made that very clear.
And they never will be unless you give them a reason to get to work. It will continue to get worse if you keep voting them in, it just does not work. They have to change but they wont unless there is a reason to.