Owners say they are noticing orange stains on the stainless steel panels of their new Cybertrucks.

  • Bonehead
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    Stainless steel, by definition, shouldn’t rust. This has nothing to do with the owners.

    • @Jesus_666@feddit.de
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      159 months ago

      Stainless steel is resistant to a certain degree of corrosion depending on the specific type of steel. If Tesla went with a steel that’s resistant enough to handle rainwater but not resistant enough to handle salted roads or salty maritime air then their cars can rust even if they’re made with genuine stainless steel.

      Of course that still means they chose the wrong steel.

      • Bonehead
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        19 months ago

        Stainless steel, also known as inox, corrosion-resistant steel (CRES) and rustless steel

        Don’t give me that bullshit. If a kitchen sink that sees water every day doesn’t rust, neither should a $100K+ truck.

        • @tpihkal@lemmy.world
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          Your kitchen sink isn’t exposed to the elements like a vehicle is. You ever seen stainless industrial sinks? They don’t always look so great after 10-20 years of abuse.

          If these trucks are exposed to salt on the roads during winter weather they probably won’t fair well. Even stainless steel is prone to corrosion and ought to be painted or plated.

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            You’re comparing 10 years of rough abuse with metal being thrown into them constantly as well as all the acids and salts used in cooking against a year of just existing outside.

            Edit: it’s not even a year outside…it was 2 days.

            One Cybertruck Owners Club forum member says they started noticing small orange flecks appearing on his truck after driving it in the rain for just two days.

            • @tpihkal@lemmy.world
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              19 months ago

              If I understand correctly (and I hope I do with a degree in chemistry), it’s moreso the long periods of exposure to wet environments. If those environments also include frequent exposure to salt it expediates the transfer of electrons to the outer surface of the stainless steel and causes oxidation.

              Oxidation/rust/petina isn’t a bad thing. A thin outer layer of rust is sometimes used as an aesthetic preservative in architecture though. There are buildings that have heavy surface rust on them intentionally.

              Probably not what you’d expect or desire on a vehicle, but very much possible. I wonder how the DeLorean DMC-12 held up in nasty conditions?

        • @Vilian@lemmy.ca
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          known as rustless steel

          Corrosion resistance Although stainless steel does rust, this only affects the outer few layers of atoms, its chromium content shielding deeper layers from oxidation.

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            If they had picked the correct grade of stainless steel, it wouldn’t rust just by being outside. Cheaper grades rust, higher grades don’t.

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            Fun fact: the soviets simply used thicker steel. That’s partly why there’s so many of those shitboxes still riding around the ex-soviet block. Based on the Fiat 124, which rusted and died in the Italian sunshine, the Soviet variant rusted but survived in far large numbers.

          • Bonehead
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            I have. I scrubbed the rust off with steel wool. As long as you don’t leave rusted iron against stainless steel for years, it’s fine. And that’s not what’s happening here.

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              So… you’ve experienced stainless rusting first hand and yet claim it doesn’t rust…?

              Stainless rusts, fucking hell lmfao.

              It doesn’t matter that it’s not what’s happening, it rusts. It’s that simple, any imperfection from salt or iron oxide (from rocks in asphalt) is a place for rust to start.

              • Bonehead
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                39 months ago

                The stainless steel didn’t rust. The cast iron pan was accidentally left on the corner of the sink for a weekend with a little water under it. The rust wiped off very easily, because it was transfered from the iron into it, which is all that’s happening as long as it’s not left there for a significant amount of time.

                The truck was driven in rain, with no snow or salt involved, and began rusting after 2 days. That’s a low grade of stainless steel to rust that fast.

                • @SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world
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                  But you said stainless doesn’t rust and have now given two examples of it doing it… strange! Isn’t it?z

                  You said you had to use steel wool, and now it just wiped up? Wow that’s quite the difference. If it didn’t rust, why the steel wool to remove the rust…?

                  Full of fucking shit dude lmfao.

                  • Bonehead
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                    09 months ago

                    I’ve given no examples of how stainless steel can rust. You gave the example to start with that had something else rusting and touching stainless steel. High grade stainless steel will not rust after 2 days.

                    Stop trying to twist things to make your argument look better. It isn’t working…

    • @Aux@lemmy.world
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      89 months ago

      Stainless steel rusts easily, especially in the presence of salt. It’s stain less, not rust proof.

      • Bonehead
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        29 months ago

        It was in rain for 2 days. It shouldn’t rust after only 2 days.

        • @Bytemeister@lemmy.world
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          Rain, maybe some left over road salt, sand, and constant vibration and abrasion… It’s gonna rust. Maybe not a lot, but it will.

          • Bonehead
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            39 months ago

            Not after 2 days. High grade stainless steel, which these trucks are obviously not using, will take a lot longer than that even with abuse. That’s the entire point of stainless steel.

            • @SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world
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              It’ll still rust dude, it’s only a matter of time depending on grade.

              There is no such thing as rust proof steel, just steel that takes longer to rust in perfect conditions….

              • Bonehead
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                19 months ago

                Do you know that 316 grade stainless steel exists, and that sea water has nothing to do with a truck that was rained on for 2 days? Seriously, bringing up irrelevant shit does not make your argument better…

                  • Bonehead
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                    09 months ago

                    It was raining, not snowing, so there was no salt. One person found it started rusting after washing with soap and water. There is no excuse for this. Bringing up irrelevant shit does not make your argument better, and neither does implying that I’m just young and don’t know what I’m talking about. Try reading the article before spouting off.