When I say arch I mean the arch distro and all of its offspring.

Endeavouros

Arch-gui

Manjaro

Artix --maybe not though

My first enjoyable distro was manjaro, the manjaro element less so but using arch clicked for me. But even so if my first experience was using arch and archinstall then yes its not the easiest but its also not that difficult, arch is treated like a boss battle in darksouls.

So when a pre configured GUI arch is recommend I would like to see less scar mongering.

  • @squid_slime@lemmy.worldOP
    3•9 months ago

    Hell if someone seemed like they didn’t want to read the wiki or learn some bash and it was case of a youtube-machine, then I’d not recommend arch. But I do think some newbies are smarter and willing than the community will give them credit for.

    I wish I was recommended arch off of the bat as I kept dipping my toes in Debian based distros for years before I’d face the darksouls boss. It was detrimental to my transition to Linux. Some people move from windows wanting that control over they’re systems.

    Anyway I posted this as an IT professional posted earlier about there unsuccessful and painful transition to Linux through Ubuntu and distros alike and a commenter mention arch and instantly got chewed out.

    “Arch isn’t for noobies” is a catch phrase at this point and I see people repeat it mindlessly

    • z3rOR0ne
      2•9 months ago

      I’m in general agreement on that. If the person is coming from a somewhat technical background, or is simply curious about learning the ins and outs of their system, then Arch is as good a choice as any imho.

      In some cases, Arch is a better choice if you need more up to date software (although 3rd party packagers like Flatpak appear to solve many of these issues on scheduled release distros as well).

      There sadly is a lot of gate keeping in the Linux community which leads to a lot of blanket statements that pervaid discussions, especially when it comes to how best to grow the Linux community. And “don’t recommend Arch or Arch bases distros to noobs” is one of them.

      Should you recommend Arch to a new Linux user? The answer is never a direct “yes” or “no”, but rather, as always, “it depends.”