I would also like a great camera, a non-locked-down bootloader and a non-customized OS with updates for at least 5 years. I can’t vote with my wallet aside from “not buying any phone”, which isn’t a vote.
Oh I would also like small smartphones back. But there are simply no good ones on the market; nothing I could vote for.
“Vote with your wallet” only works if there is a good enough set of choices on the market.
True, and that’s why you can only marginally change anything on the market with that. If no player on the market offers what you want, your only choices are to punish everyone (which they won’t notice) or reward one of the least-bad players.
Both can set the wrong incentives for companies to change or continue.
Doesn’t fit “small”. It was also just an example, my actual requirements are longer. I need my banking apps to work too, for example, which likely automatically limits me to Android/iOS. No idea how good they work with Sailfish for example.
Might be worth a shot, but typically they even refuse to work on rooted androids, so I assume whatever security mechanism they expect, it won’t be there.
There is a triangle of camera quality, software support, and peripheral support. You can have 2.
Fairphone is the close, but they removed the headphone jack when they upgraded their camera in order to push their shitty earbuds that they only sold/supported for 2 years I think before scrapping them and are continuing the cycle with their new headphones (directly contrary to their mission). They also refuse to add simple wireless charging.
Sony has camera quality (only their photo pro, not in their shitty default camera app) and peripherals, but no software support (2 years max).
Voting with my wallet is buying no phones ever, apparently.
Search for camera and peripheral support, as for software support, search models which have open source kernel code and bought alot, they usually have best community support, I’m saying this as current owner of poco x3 pro, and i learned my lesson when i bought redmi note 4 mtk 4/64, they didn’t released source code for mtk model, so only way to support it is to make Frankenstein from source code of snapdragon note 4 model, some smartphone kernel code with that mtk cpu support, and cherry pick updates from Linux 3.18 to current, while testing and fixing bugs from one lts version to another till you reach current one
You vote with your wallets. Each time you buy a phone without SD cart, you are submitting a ballot.
Seriously. phones are 99% identical anyways. It’s not so hard to filter for the 2-3 criteria you actually care about.
I would also like a great camera, a non-locked-down bootloader and a non-customized OS with updates for at least 5 years. I can’t vote with my wallet aside from “not buying any phone”, which isn’t a vote.
Oh I would also like small smartphones back. But there are simply no good ones on the market; nothing I could vote for.
“Vote with your wallet” only works if there is a good enough set of choices on the market.
Like regular voting, you pick the best one of the bunch; even if it’s only marginally better than the rest. Even if it’s still terrible.
Repeat. Repeat again.
True, and that’s why you can only marginally change anything on the market with that. If no player on the market offers what you want, your only choices are to punish everyone (which they won’t notice) or reward one of the least-bad players.
Both can set the wrong incentives for companies to change or continue.
So it’s ok to bitch a shitty choices.
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Doesn’t fit “small”. It was also just an example, my actual requirements are longer. I need my banking apps to work too, for example, which likely automatically limits me to Android/iOS. No idea how good they work with Sailfish for example.
Does your banking app work with waydroid? If yes, then you can use pinephone
Might be worth a shot, but typically they even refuse to work on rooted androids, so I assume whatever security mechanism they expect, it won’t be there.
Magisk hide
What’s wrong with your banks website?
I need transaction codes (essentially OTP). Even if I used their website. For that alone I need a supported phone.
So your bank doesn’t support any other method than a cell phone for 2fa?
I would be allergic to a bank that requires me to use a device that’s notorious for being compromised for “security”.
This is a cop out. I have a 2023 Motorola phone that has everything but ir blaster and removable battery. Why lie like this??
There is a good enough set of choices on the internet you’re just a spoiled baby. Who needs green chat bubbles 🙄
There is a triangle of camera quality, software support, and peripheral support. You can have 2.
Fairphone is the close, but they removed the headphone jack when they upgraded their camera in order to push their shitty earbuds that they only sold/supported for 2 years I think before scrapping them and are continuing the cycle with their new headphones (directly contrary to their mission). They also refuse to add simple wireless charging.
Sony has camera quality (only their photo pro, not in their shitty default camera app) and peripherals, but no software support (2 years max).
Voting with my wallet is buying no phones ever, apparently.
There’s also Shiftphone out of Germany, but it looks like they’re still securing funding for their next round of phones.
Messed up world out there
Yeah, but they don’t meet the criteria because their camera is pretty poor IIRC.
Search for camera and peripheral support, as for software support, search models which have open source kernel code and bought alot, they usually have best community support, I’m saying this as current owner of poco x3 pro, and i learned my lesson when i bought redmi note 4 mtk 4/64, they didn’t released source code for mtk model, so only way to support it is to make Frankenstein from source code of snapdragon note 4 model, some smartphone kernel code with that mtk cpu support, and cherry pick updates from Linux 3.18 to current, while testing and fixing bugs from one lts version to another till you reach current one