• @CableMonster@lemmy.ml
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      211 months ago

      So no answer, you are going with “BUT AMERICA!!”? And if you really want a shitty economy like cuba, watch the video and see why I know a guy that literally floated here on an inner tube.

      • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OPM
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        011 months ago

        I gave you an answer, and the fact that you don’t understand the role US plays in destroying socialism around the world clearly shows that there’s no point trying to have a discussion with you. Maybe spend some time educating yourself instead of trolling on public forums. Bye.

        • @CableMonster@lemmy.ml
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          211 months ago

          And you still have not responded to the video done by a left wing company. You ideas dont work even in theory.

          • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OPM
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            011 months ago

            LMAO imagine claiming central planning doesn’t work when China exists. Also, I did respond to you, go read the book to see what was done to Venezuela and countries around it. Obviously we both know you’re not going to read it, so keep on believing whatever nonsense you want. Not my job to educate you.

            • @CableMonster@lemmy.ml
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              211 months ago

              China is not central planned, it is central controlled… I agree with the idea that the US has screwed around all around the world and has harmed hundreds of countries, but to blame the failure of every shitty country due to a place thousands of miles away is silly. Literally Venuela is he example where they failed and THEN after they seized property they were embargoed. Linking to a book isnt some kind of proof of anything.

              • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OPM
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                -111 months ago

                China has massive amounts of central planning. They literally release 5 year plans for the country. Meanwhile, there is nothing silly about blaming a country that chokes off other countries economies, invades them, meddles in their politics, runs coups, and political assassinations. US is aggressively hostile to every socialist country on the planet.

                Meanwhile, even if we accepted your premise that Venezuela failed because of central planning, that doesn’t prove what you seem to think it proves. Plenty of capitalist countries fail all the time. Using your galaxy brain logic, that proves that decentralized planning doesn’t work. Why haven’t you moved to Argentina for example? Based on your argument it should be a libertarian paradise.

                Finally, dismissing a book that directly addresses your questions without reading it is precisely in line with the level of intellect you’ve demonstrated in this discussion.

                • @CableMonster@lemmy.ml
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                  211 months ago

                  They do, and they also have an economy that many people are afraid will collapse due to its debt level. Again, for the third time, Venezuela was doing terribly BEFORE they had sanctions. Can you please point to a country that was relatively capatilistic and failed due to the economy? Let me point to the horrible country that you lived in, the USSR, as the biggest example for the socialist/communist side.

                  • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OPM
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                    111 months ago

                    Nobody except western people with exceptionally smooth brains is afraid that the economy in China will collapse. Venezuela was fucked with by US long before the sanctions. The book I linked you details this fuckery. Read it instead of making a clown of yourself here.

                    Meanwhile, one has to be an utter ignoramus to not be able to think of countries that failed under capitalism. I know it’s a trope that Americans are historically illiterate, but holy shit. Go read up on what happened to Germany in the 30s.

                    The fact that you think you know more about USSR than somebody lived there really sums it up though. 😂

                    You’re like the embodiment of the Dunning-Kruger effect.