• Flying Squid
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    2911 months ago

    What? How do you even discuss the situation without using the word ‘Palestine?’

    • @S_204@lemm.ee
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      611 months ago

      They use Gaza instead.

      The thinking behind this is that you’re not making it out like it’s all Palestinians that are part of the Hamas death cult…at least that’s how it’s been explained to me. Not sure how that’s pro Israel exactly, seems to be more pro Palestinian but I’m sure someone will tell me how that’s wrong.

      • Flying Squid
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        1411 months ago

        I said this to @MxM111- my problem is that the IDF is now doing raids in the West Bank too. When the IDF is in both parts of Palestine, using Gaza doesn’t really make sense.

    • MxM111
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      -1011 months ago

      If you click on the link in the post above, then you will see that they specifically talk about war to be called “Israel-Gasa”, not “Israel-Palestinian” war to avoid confusion with Palestinian Authority. Such titles are click-bates.

        • MxM111
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          -611 months ago

          Such raids Israel was doing well before the war. Israel also does not have a goal to destroy the Palestinian Authority. You are twisting facts here. Precisely because of such statements the journalists are given instructions NOT TO DO THAT.

          • Flying Squid
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            811 months ago

            What facts did I twist? Because all I said was that the war has expanded to beyond Gaza to the West Bank whether their goal is to destroy the PA or not. I’m not even sure why not having that goal means the war can’t expand into the West Bank. Are you under the strange misapprehension that every war is about regime change?

            Also, my link was one example. There have been plenty of others.

            It seems to me that calling it the Israel-Gaza war when it isn’t just in Israel and Gaza is a twisting of facts. Even Wikipedia has the sense to call it the Israel-Hamas war since at least Israel claims that’s who they’re at war against (I would argue that is also false). And let’s say that’s true. Why can’t Hamas members be in the West Bank?

            Was America at war with Pakistan when it killed Bin Laden in Pakistan during the “Great War on Terror?”

            • MxM111
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              -711 months ago

              Calling this Israili-Palistinian war is twisting facts. There are also shorts traded with Hezbollah, so, let’s call it Israeli Lebanon/Iranian war.

              • Flying Squid
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                811 months ago

                Shots traded is not the same thing as multiple incursions.

                How many military operations do there have to be in the West Bank for it to not make sense to call it the “Israel-Gaza War?”

                • MxM111
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                  -311 months ago

                  You understand that West Bank is occupied by Israel for many years and they do these raids for many years (decades even), right?

                  • Flying Squid
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                    511 months ago

                    You didn’t answer my question.

                    Also, from the link I pasted that you obviously ignored:

                    On 15 December, Doctors Without Borders reported 2023 was the deadliest year for Palestinians in the West Bank in recorded history.

                    And yet the war is only in Gaza.

                    Weird kind of peace.