• @meyotch@slrpnk.net
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    A distinction without a difference. Religion produces demonstrable harm to many people. To be religious is to be an extremist. The entire idea that a being from your imagination should influence my behavior is whack.

    • @CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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      1511 months ago

      To be religious is to be an extremist.

      Over 80% of people in the US believe in one religion or another. The country is not 80% extremists.

      • @smitten@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        011 months ago

        And there’s the problem with the idea of extremism to begin with. It’s only extreme because too different. The idea of extremist ideologies is inherently conservative, and really we should be judging ideologies by how they negatively or positively affect people.

    • @hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Because apparently Christianity is the only religion in existence and all religious people want you to practice their religion. Or something.

    • @fastandcurious@lemmy.worldOP
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      Again, can you tell me how if you are not religious, how is religion influencing you? And how is your opinion different than any other religious extremist who also claims that anyone who doesn’t follow x religion is bigot? It’s the same thing where everyone is just hating everyone else who doesn’t share the same belief, except being an atheist somehow gives you a free pass to bash on everyone else’s belief, you all then should not be complaining if anyone starts saying all atheism is extremism

      Edit: I am gonna clarify that I personally don’t think atheism itself is extremism, anyone has the right to chose what path they think is correct

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        Something about my religious leaders wanting to strap electrodes to my junk and torture me for being gay has given me some strong opinions. Don’t you dare dismiss my experiences as invalid, I’m fighting terrorists here.

        • @tourist@lemmy.world
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          1111 months ago

          My friend is estranged from his family because he is trans and they don’t accept him because the bible says blablabla

      • Cowbee [he/they]
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        1611 months ago

        Religion teaches and reinforces bigoted and anti-science views, generally. Yes, there are good people that reject this basis of their religion, but religion itself has done far more harm than good.

        • @Haagel
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          How do you qualify “more harm than good”? You’re making a pretty broad claim about 85% of the world’s population, according to Pew Research.

          • Cowbee [he/they]
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            1111 months ago

            You’re putting words in my mouth, lmao. I explicitly separated Religious people from Religion itself, and you’re tying them together as slander.

            Religion has done more harm than good as it has been the foundation of racism, homophobia, sexism, transphobia, rejection of science such as Evolution, and more. Religious people can be good, and have done good things, but Religion itself is harmful.

            I respect people’s rights to practice, but I don’t respect Religious people using religion as justification for anything bigoted, anti-science, or generally harmful.

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              The audacity of claiming that religious adherents are uniquely racist!

              Racism is literally the foundation of Darwinism, as explicitly stated by Francis Crick, the co-discoverer of the DNA double helix.

              It’s right there in the title of Darwin’s book: On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life

              It’s human nature to fight each other, and the tendency towards extremism is universal.

              • Cowbee [he/they]
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                I did not claim religious people were uniquely racist, only that religion supports and reinforces racism. Kindly refrain from putting words in my mouth and actually answer my actual points.

                Human Nature is a naturalistic fallacy, and is a way to avoid actually addressing whether or not religion assists and reinforces racism or not.

                • @Haagel
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                  You said it’s the foundation of racism.

                  foundation noun foun·​da·​tion 1 : the act of founding here since the foundation of the school 2 : a basis (such as a tenet, principle, or axiom) upon which something stands or is supported the foundations of geometry the rumor is without foundation in fact

                  Technical arguments don’t change the fact that Darwinism is inherently racist.

                  • Cowbee [he/they]
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                    811 months ago

                    It’s certainly not the only foundation, but it is a foundation.

                    Darwinism is not inherently racist, race isn’t even real, it’s a social construct. You’ve been doing Nazi apologia, intentionally or not, by attempting to tie Hitler to actual, sound science, and pretending the science must be bad.

        • @fastandcurious@lemmy.worldOP
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          Please provide sources for your claims, what religion you want to believe in is a different topic, read the books of all the major religions and see how many and which one of them is ‘bigoted’ and ‘Anti-Scientific’

          If you are not gonna do that, atleast not fire such claims because you yourself don’t have the knowledge.

          • Cowbee [he/they]
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            All major religions reject science by asserting the baseless claim of divinity. They propose a foundational divine, without any proof. This is anti-science.

            As for being bigoted, quick examples are Christianity and the other Abrahamic religions supporting homophobia, transphobia, sexism, strong gender roles, and more.