• @SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml
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    -911 months ago

    Yes, exactly what this guy is saying is true. This is the kind of person whose presence is unwelcome in the men’s lib movement. This is the kind of crap up with which we shall not put, which is why I feel comfortable recommending it to people.

    So, buddy, let me be clear. The harms we see and talk about and try to deal with are inflicted by toxic masculinity. It has nothing to do with “radical feminism” and I honestly have no idea what that means to you. I’ve heard the term used for everyone ranging from women who point out and fight against rape culture to women with purple hair. But, yeah, if you’re the kind of man who complains about radical feminism, especially when the discussion is centering around issues affecting men including everything from education to economics to the culture of violence and racism… well, your input is probably going to be disregarded.

    • Rikudou_SageA
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      2311 months ago

      Not OP, but you’re omitting what people actually mean by radical feminists. And it’s not purple hair, you’re being ridiculous. People usually mean women who say all men all rapists, all men should die and so on.

      • @ParsnipWitch@feddit.de
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        111 months ago

        And you need to join anti-feminist groups and claim Men who advocate for men don’t “sound like men” to fight against these people? Give me an estimate how many feminists do you believe think that all men are rapists or that all men should die. Just a guess.

        • Rikudou_SageA
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          411 months ago

          Oh, I don’t, I haven’t joined any such group, I pretty much consider myself feminist and even donated quite a lot of money to feminist causes before I had to focus my attention on saving some money for personal reasons (though I plan on returning to donating when I have some significant spare money again).

          I was just explaining what people really mean by radical feminist and that the claim that it’s about hair color is ridiculous (though I’m sure you’ll find such people, but to paraphrase your question - how many percent do you believe mean just hair color by “radical feminist”?).

          To answer your question, my guess would be in the 5-10% range.

          • @ParsnipWitch@feddit.de
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            211 months ago

            You believe 5-10 % of people who call themselves feminists want to kill all men or believe all men are rapists? That is absolutely sad. Do you mind to explain to me what makes you arrive at such a conclusion?

            • Rikudou_SageA
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              311 months ago

              Well, not only those, but something in the general direction of “all men are bad and should be punished”.

              Statistics, mainly, in any large enough group there are 10-20% idiots/extremists/trolls. Sometimes more, sometimes less, depends really on the group/topic. Sadly they’re usually also the loudest group further feeding the illusion that they’re the majority.

    • @intensely_human@lemm.ee
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      111 months ago

      So you’re saying people critical to the Men’s Lib movement aren’t welcome in the Men’s Lib movement?

      That tells me everything I need to know about it’s “intellectual methods”.