But HP thinks that when you buy a printer, the company is investing in you
That sounds gross, but I’m pretty sure what’s meant is simply that their printers are a loss leader, and the margins are supposed to be made up in the ink cartridges. Like here’s another way of putting it: when Keurig sells the coffee machine at a loss, they are investing in you hoping you will buy a lot of kcups to recoup the investment.
That seems fine on the surface. But they don’t just sell ink cartridges. They show them empty when there’s still ink, or if you only run out of one kind of ink. They’re sniveling backstabbing weasels who fuck over their customers. Fuck them.
Plus, it’s been a long time since I’ve seen an affordable printer. I’m just going to get gouged twice.
You can put brother printers on continuous mode and they will keep printing. When the quality starts to look bad, take the toner out and shake it. Put it back in. Volia.
That sounds gross, but I’m pretty sure what’s meant is simply that their printers are a loss leader, and the margins are supposed to be made up in the ink cartridges. Like here’s another way of putting it: when Keurig sells the coffee machine at a loss, they are investing in you hoping you will buy a lot of kcups to recoup the investment.
That seems fine on the surface. But they don’t just sell ink cartridges. They show them empty when there’s still ink, or if you only run out of one kind of ink. They’re sniveling backstabbing weasels who fuck over their customers. Fuck them.
Plus, it’s been a long time since I’ve seen an affordable printer. I’m just going to get gouged twice.
Yeah I’m not saying HP are the good guys, just explaining the wording of that quote.
I love my Epson EcoTank printer. $12/3oz. Ink is a fantastic bargain, and no chips to deal with as they’re just big, dumb, tanks.
Ditto. It’s great. No DRM. Just ink. The printer is more pricy but it’ll save you in the end.
Nice. I’ll look into this!
Brother makes great printers and they accept generic toner/ink.
… and the inks report as empty before they are empty, regardless of brand. Still, cheaper to throw in a new 3rd party tank than throwing money at HP.
My next printer will be an “eco tank” refillable printer - which probably has other special problems I don’t know about yet.
You can put brother printers on continuous mode and they will keep printing. When the quality starts to look bad, take the toner out and shake it. Put it back in. Volia.
*Brother laser printer can do that. My consumer inkjet can’t.
Oh nice. Thanks for the info!
Similar with XBOX. Microsoft was selling Xboxes at a loss and making up revenue in selling games.
Recently, Microsoft made the push to get their game rental service Xbox Game Pass onto competing consoles like Playstation and Switch.
Savvy gamers will recall this is what SEGA did before bowing out of the hardware game entirely.
If Microsoft is learning that loss leaders are ineffective, maybe HP needs to wake the fuck up and smell the coffee, too.