Samsung might copy Google's trick: seven years of updates for the Galaxy S24.

Quoting the tl;dr in the linked article:

  • Samsung could be stepping up its game by offering seven years of major Android updates for the Galaxy S24 series, and the generous update policy might extend to other Galaxy flagships.

  • The Galaxy S24 series might also introduce charges for AI features like Live Translate and Pixel-like photo editing tools after 2025.

  • There’s speculation that users may need to sign in to their Samsung accounts for certain AI functionalities.

  • Saik0English
    2•11 months ago

    I follow along with what I am told. If someone says they can do it. Show that it can be accomplished.

    Except they haven’t shown anything. There’s literally nothing on the market that works. Literally nothing. Over a decade of this “Technology” being developed and there’s nothing to show for it.

    Believing either of you is a toss up. Both come to the table with evidence.

    What? What evidence have they shown? The only video that I can find from any of these companies “working” is them lying to you and using like 20 modules to come up with the 5v of power then need to trick a phone into thinking it’s charging by pulsing a capacitor.

    At the end of the day the product will either work or it won’t. Man went to the moon. 100 years ago they’d say can’t be done. 200 before that and the ability to stream video over the internet would get you burnt for being a witch.

    The difference is that nobody said that rules of physics and science outright disagrees. You cannot beat the inverse square law. This is much like the laws of thermodynamics. You don’t just “change” them. The fact that people like you seem to thinks that laws of physics change is actually disturbing.

    I’m sure science had fundamental laws but things change. Those laws aren’t concrete.

    Uh what? Yes they are. You think that gravity just changes on a whim? That we discover some stuff and magically gravity will turn left? This is absurd.

    I can choose to believe.

    That’s true. But that doesn’t make it any more possible to actually do.

    I have invested in wattup. I think it’s possible. Disney showed that it was possible. Just that an entire room was electrified and that you’d die of you went inside. We can mess with it.

    https://seekingalpha.com/article/4031486-energous-admits-wattup-unsafe-for-humans-and-cannot-get-fcc-approval This was published 7 years ago… They admitted it themselves… but you still “believe”. Right? I hope you didn’t invest much. That money has basically been lit on fire.

    • @Mojojojo1993@lemmy.worldEnglish
      0•11 months ago

      Did you look at the website? They have products in the market. They have them in warehouses. They are sensors using fractions of power. But it’s still a product.

      The videos showing it, the patents and again products.

      They do change though. In space things work differently. And they also don’t change but have been incorrectly observed. The way we see things. Experiment and then prove that when x does this y does this. But sometimes x does something because r was present but we didn’t know that.

      Not saying laws change. That whoever first theorized it wasn’t correct. There was something else.

      But this is a pointless argument. You are set in your ways. Science is great. I’m still invested in it and will purchase the product when it comes to market.

      I’ll wait. Check out reviews and then go from there. Either they have managed to overcome the limitations or they haven’t.

      If they haven’t then company goes bust. End of story. Another scam to add to the list.

      • Saik0English
        2•11 months ago

        Did you look at the website? They have products in the market. They have them in warehouses. They are sensors using fractions of power. But it’s still a product.

        Yes I did… if you read my post, you would know that. Keep in mind that I even went to the Ossa site and ASKED to purchase it. I even utilized my companies name to do it. So if they don’t respond to business to business purchases, they don’t have a product. And guess what! still no response.

        The videos showing it, the patents and again products.

        You do not need a functional product to apply for a patent. Most patents are patented before they’re commercially viable… and most patents never go to market.

        They do change though. In space things work differently. And they also don’t change but have been incorrectly observed. The way we see things. Experiment and then prove that when x does this y does this. But sometimes x does something because r was present but we didn’t know that.

        No they don’t. Period. Nothing in “space” works any different than on Earth. We’re talking about laws of physics. Not some random nerds observation of some very particular event. The LAWS of PHYSICS say this is impossible.

        But this is a pointless argument. You are set in your ways. Science is great. I’m still invested in it and will purchase the product when it comes to market.

        So what is it? is it on market, in warehouses etc… or is it unreleased and not on the market yet? You can’t have it both ways.

        I’ll wait. Check out reviews and then go from there. Either they have managed to overcome the limitations or they haven’t.

        They haven’t. They admitted they haven’t. Did you read my link? And you clearly didn’t wait and check out the reviews. You said you invested in them… That’s the opposite of waiting.

        https://seekingalpha.com/article/4031486-energous-admits-wattup-unsafe-for-humans-and-cannot-get-fcc-approval

        Let me help you and quote the parts that matter to show how absurd you are.

        1. Energous knows that the RF energy density levels are unsafe to humans and in excess to what the FCC can approve. The company proposes to address this by incorporating a sensor system in the transmitter that “will detect the presence of people (and pets) within or near virtual buffer region”. This vision is illustrated in Figure 6 where Case 1 allows charging (nothing near the target device), Case 2 does not allow charging (due to the couch blocking the view), Case 3 may allow charging depending on the distance between the receiver and the couch, and Case 4 does not allow charging (due to the cat being close by).

        So it cannot work in the presence of people and they acknowledge that. Let’s say this goes to market, everyone has one in the house now. How long before it fails to detect a 4 year old until it cooks the kids brain and it’s pulled off the market? This literally isn’t going to make it to mass market. It will NEVER happen, this CANNOT make it to market simply because it’s not possible for the device to know where humans/pets/living creatures/AND EVEN PLANTS are in order to not fry them. Lick a nine volt battery… Then realize you want the air to literally be that.

        This ALREADY proves that all the marketing is false. That every video that they have showing people in the same fucking room as a charging device is a LIE, so what evidence do they have of it being functional/working? Yet here you are sucking the corporate dick on this and not understanding that it’s not just science that’s against them. It’s literally everything… Hell here’s ANOTHER issue that they’ve yet to address… Wattup works at the 5.75 Ghz frequency. This is dead in between 5Ghz and 6Ghz wifi. Considering the power they’re putting into the air… any place utilizing this product will literally cripple their Wifi network. You think anyone is going to allow that to happen? What will you look at on your phone since you don’t have wifi but have “unlimited” power.

        Edit: Oh and to prove I’ve read most of everything they’ve posted on their site… https://www.ossia.com/news

        How many “firsts” can they post of the same item, months apart? Look at how big the receiver is on that camera that’s supposedly in production (but you can’t buy).

        https://www.ossia.com/resources-library

        Look at all the material here… Notice the complete lack in “firmware” and “applications” that work with the product. Remember the demo showing that it’s managed? Where’s the support portal for that? Just images, just marketing, just fluffy white papers.

        • @Mojojojo1993@lemmy.worldEnglish
          0•11 months ago

          Then that is very concerning, you tried to purchase and they didn’t respond?

          I get that but doesn’t a patent need to be viable. Sound science. I can’t patent something that isn’t feasible.

          Gravity changes in space. Black holes. Dark matter. Isn’t that a Change. Nothing to do with nerd. Just stuff. The laws are laws on Earth.

          Ossia a different company has products on warehouses. They are bring out a product. Similar to wattup.

          Yeah I read that, the current system might not work but they potentially can bring something to market. Maybe not.

          I don’t think it’s sucking the corporate dick. Just would be useful to have. Bigger batteries would solve the issue. But still.

          Bit agro aye

          • Saik0English
            2•11 months ago

            Then that is very concerning, you tried to purchase and they didn’t respond?

            I sent the contact us message last night. using the form https://www.ossia.com/contact. Since there’s no other place to send anything nor any other methods of communications on the page. No response yet.

            I get that but doesn’t a patent need to be viable. Sound science. I can’t patent something that isn’t feasible.

            Yes you can. https://www.freepatentsonline.com/crazy.html

            (https://www.freepatentsonline.com/3216423.pdf) Let’s spin a baby out of a woman. totally lets yeet a baby across the room and spin mom at 3 G’s of force.
            (https://www.freepatentsonline.com/5392735.pdf) Let’s talk to dolphins!
            (https://www.freepatentsonline.com/20040161257.pdf) Scroll to page 16 and read claim #9.

            Nothing about a patent actually has to work to patent it.

            Gravity changes in space. Black holes. Dark matter. Isn’t that a Change. Nothing to do with nerd. Just stuff. The laws are laws on Earth.

            No. Gravity is gravity and the laws of physics accurately account for things like how far away bodies are from each other which is how much gravity would affect a body. The laws of gravity doesn’t change just because the effects a body feels has changed.

            Ossia a different company has products on warehouses. They are bring out a product. Similar to wattup.

            Nothing that they’ve been willing to sell me so far. Nothing that I’ve seen in many pages of searching. Can you point to a functional system in use in a warehouse? A listing for a logistics person to purchase the system? A partner retailer/reseller? Any companies that Ossia has partnered with to install this system? Heck, you invested in WattUp… Pull out the quarterly reports that you’re entitled to as an investor. Any notifications that they’ve worked with any other companies at all?

            Just would be useful to have.

            So when I said people like you are the one’s enabling the con… I wasn’t wrong then was I? I don’t disagree that the idea is cool… But it simply cannot be put into practice. It just doesn’t work. Exactly the same as Hyperloop which was my original claim…

            Bit agro aye

            Only if you don’t like sucking dick… Are you scared of being gay (yes I’m assuming your gender, it’s funnier that way)?

            • @Mojojojo1993@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1•11 months ago

              I’ve never tried. Have a pretty severe gag reflex so doubt I’d enjoy it.

              I really hoped Hyperloop world work too. Maybe that is the core of the issue. I’ll look at the investor report. Pretty sure both companies had products in warehouses but would need to check again