• @fastandcurious@lemmy.worldOP
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      1510 months ago

      I do use linux mint for basic stuff, bit I am a complete noob and can’t figure out how to get Altstore on it, not that it matters because it hasn’t been updated in 2 years for Linux

      • Baggins [he/him]
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        -4910 months ago

        You’re using apple products? There’s your problem.

        The software you’re talking about doesn’t even support Linux.

        • Scrubbles
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          5110 months ago

          Bro, if you want to raise adoption you gotta drop the “IAmVerySmart” tone. Be kind with people, encourage them to learn. There was a time you didn’t know this either.

          Instead of saying “haha you use apple” why not “Oh okay great, so if you used X on Apple you’ll probably find Y on Linux to be very similar”

          • @Nythos@sh.itjust.works
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            2910 months ago

            If there’s anything Linux users are most known for on the internet it’s their holier than thou attitude towards windows users.

            • Scrubbles
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              1910 months ago

              That’s the annoying attitude I’ve hated while being in the tech world. I was there back in the days of win98 vs the macintosh, and fanboys were just as annoying back then as they are now - and Linux users have always been the worst of both groups.

              The world has nuance. We like Linux. There are fans of Windows and there are fans of Apple. We can show others how we like to use our computers without also demeaning them for their preferences. Above all else, we should admit that no one is stupid for using one OS over the other. I use linux for home, most of my career developing has been on Windows, and I currently develop for work on Mac. They all have their own usages.

              Thanks for letting me vent that.

          • Baggins [he/him]
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            -2010 months ago

            If OP is using an iPhone then Linux is probably not right for them. Just have to accept that you don’t control your own devices when you’re using those platforms.

            • Scrubbles
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              10 months ago

              Great, then you didn’t have to say “Should have installed linux instead” because you admit that it may not be the right solution for everyone.

                • Scrubbles
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                  510 months ago

                  And there’s your lesson about assuming things about people.

            • Fushuan [he/him]
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              110 months ago

              I assure you that most people that use Linux don’t degoogle their phone. What’s the difference then?

      • @moody
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        3110 months ago

        Without intending to circlejerk, the only linux updates that I have encountered that required a reboot were kernel updates, and they don’t force a reboot, they just don’t apply until you do. And when you do update the kernel, the update is downloaded and set up without interrupting anything. You can just power off when you’re done, and next time you power on, it’s already updated. None of those “Please wait 5-10 minutes, and don’t power off your PC” messages.

        • Fushuan [he/him]
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          010 months ago

          But that’s how Windows updates go. They update and then ask for a reboot, which you do when you switch the PC off. The people than complain about windows updating when they logged on are people that delayed the security updates so long that they were beyond critical y the time windows said that enough is enough.

          • @NuclearDolphin@lemmy.ml
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            210 months ago

            Yeah but for some reason Windows updates hang on the login screen for what seems like an eternity on shutdown and startup. No idea what Windows is doing, but it’s super frustrating.

            • Fushuan [he/him]
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              010 months ago

              Dunno, when I had windows I just pressed update and restart before logging off and by the next morning it was done.

          • @Honytawk@lemmy.zip
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            110 months ago

            And if that choice was left to the average user, we would have computers that didn’t have security updates for years.

            • Andrew
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              210 months ago

              We already have them, they called Windows XP and 7.

              Although this is an issue, but it’s pretty safe to say that “it’s their fault”. Also Pop!_OS has the annoying for me pop-up once in a while that tells me that there are updates available. With this users probably will still update sometimes.