In an interview with the Guardian from his home base in Burlington, Vermont, Sanders urged the Democratic president to inject more urgency into his bid for re-election. He said that unless the president was more direct in recognising the many crises faced by working-class families his Republican rival would win.

“We’ve got to see the White House move more aggressively on healthcare, on housing, on tax reform, on the high cost of prescription drugs,” Sanders said. “If we can get the president to move in that direction, he will win; if not, he’s going to lose.”

The US senator from Vermont added that he was in contact with the White House pressing that point. “We hope to make clear to the president and his team that they are not going to win this election unless they come up with a progressive agenda that speaks to the needs of the working class of this country.”

Sanders’ warning comes at a critical time in American politics. On Monday, Republicans in Iowa will gather for caucuses that mark the official start of the 2024 presidential election.

Biden faces no serious challenger in the Democratic primaries. But concern is mounting over how he would fare against Trump given a likely rematch between them in November.

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    Unless the Trump is held accountable, He will most likely win. People’s material needs are important and Dem messaging has basically been hey we showed this graph so you’re not struggling and anything popular you want won’t happen. But everything bad will happen with the other guy. Being not Trump once again is a dangerous way to win the election. Trump’s cultist ass should be getting crushed.

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      Trump’s cultist ass should be getting crushed.

      Makes me wonder what might have happened if the DNC hadn’t f**ked Bernie over, twice.

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          Very explicitly knowingly *

          *FTFY.

          Democrats will suspend the constitution THEMSELVES before they go against our corporate overlords and run someone like Bernie.

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            The DNC loves losing. Losing means they can endlessly fundraise and not have to actually govern!

      • @Moira_Mayhem@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        It hurts me to think how much better a position we would be in right now if they hadn’t worked so hard to marginalize him.

        Imagine how many lives would have been saved on just the pandemic disinformation alone.

        And Bernie would have absolutely demolished cheetolini in the debates.

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        Maybe he would have lost his aura because he wouldn’t have had the means to do what he says should be done.

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          Maybe he would have lost his aura

          At this point Bernie’s lost at least some of it; I can’t disagree with those who’ve accused him of sheepdogging, although I think he was trying to do the best he could with what he had.

          • @CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works
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            Sanders not burning his own party cost him much of his clout. Frankly they deserved it for what they did to him and his show of weakness backing the warhawk Clinton was awful to see from someone who usually has so much fire.

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              Bernie’s moral code includes supporting his party’s “democratic” ways, as anything else would be a coup in its own right.

              Even if I believe he’s off the mark in doing that, I admire him for it. It’s rare to see these days.

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              Sanders not burning his own party cost him much of his clout.

              Technically it’s not his own party since he’s an independent who caucuses with the Democrats, but otherwise I know exactly what you mean.

      • @Rusticus@lemmy.world
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        Well progressives are to blame for their incessant whining that any candidate that is not 100% progressive is absolute shit. Progressives are bitching about PEOPLE while corporatists are controlling the narrative about ISSUES.

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          Progressives are bitching about PEOPLE while corporatists are controlling the narrative about ISSUES.

          Progressives have been banging the drum for universal health care (an ISSUE) for years, so far with no luck – (no) thanks to the corporatists.

          And as for Israel (also an ISSUE), don’t get me started…

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            The whole point is that progressives are getting CRUSHED by the corporatists because the whiners can’t stop eating their own.

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              progressives are getting CRUSHED by the corporatists

              Well yeah, because the corporatists control the purse strings.

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                Until progressives learn to play and win the messaging game, we’re wasting our time. But it has to start with positive messaging not negative messaging. Trumpists have that market cornered.

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                  Again, messaging takes money, and that’s controlled by the corporate wing of the party.

                  Progressives are more or less wasting their time if they don’t leave the party.

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                  It’s not a messaging issue. Boomers are intentionally voting against progressives and leftists in primaries because boomers are selfish pieces of shit who enjoy fucking over anybody younger than 65 years old.

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              What on earth are you talking about? Progressives and leftists didn’t lose the 2020 primaries due to infighting. Having multiple candidates running with similar perspectives is a sign of a healthy movement. I wanted Bernie but I would’ve happily supported others.

              But Boomers couldn’t resist the chance to vote against progressive and leftist efforts and since Biden was the only viable procorporate trash candidate they rallied around him.

              Fuck the Boomers.

    • @Moira_Mayhem@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      It still blows my mind he wasn’t taken into custody for sedition ON Jan 6th.

      I think future historians will point to that as a major turning point in our nation’s decline.

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        Taking a sitting president into custody without impeachment when he is not an immediate threat would be a coup, which I imagine would be worse for democracy, though maybe not for america.

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          Pretty sure the final outcome of letting donny spray tan go with zero consequences is going to be him winning the last election our country ever has, so pardon me if I don’t agree with you that taking a sitting president into custody is more of a problem than a legit dictator being allowed to run for office.

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            No point worrying about Trump desteoying democracy if you destroy it yourself first. Its not like you can’t stop an insurrectionist from running for office legally without violating the constitution and laws by taking him into custody.

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              In a less corrupt world I would say that peaceful protests are a legal way to keep him out of office but we all know cop hypocrisy and the right wing media machine will spin it just like they did for all the George Floyd protests.

      • HACKthePRISONS
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        i think it’s more of a milestone. we haven’t actually changed trajectory at all.

        • @Moira_Mayhem@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          As someone active in politics since the late 80s, I can say we have certainly lost a number of our civil liberties, fascists feel emboldened enough to go full masks-off on the floor of Congress, and we just had a fucking soft coup attempt, so yea our trajectory has been on the downward side of parabolic since Ragass Reagan was allowed to ooze into the white house.

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      I have been pre-emptively severely depressed for this.

    • @douglasg14b@lemmy.world
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      It’s kinda crazy since, what will the other wlsode do to help? There is a strong history of actively harming everyone but the ultra rich.

      It’s like being mad at my boss because he isn’t telling me how he’s going to help me on my career progression, and deciding I’ll switch bosses to a corrupt prison guard instead.

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      Unfortunately the way I see it is Biden will lose for two reasons:

      1. Hes old af
      2. Inflation

      Regardless of policies or how terrible the alternative is. I dont think most people are going to think much past “Things are expensive now, and oh great a super old white dude”.

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        Love how they can blame inflation on Joe Brandon, but they refused to blame 45 for anything for 4 years.

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          Different types of people. Its a shame Democrats have such an uphill battle to rally around candidates because those voters hold their leaders accountable, almost to a fault. The republican voter base is made of people who are basically in a cult, or are one issue voters.

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          Love how they can blame inflation on Joe Brandon, but they refused to blame 45 for anything for 4 years.

          Because the Dems were not yelling that from the rooftops like they should have been, so perception is set as that it’s Biden’s fault.

        • Cosmic Cleric
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          Inflation started under Trump and Trump is just as old

          That’s not the perception though.

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            Just pointing out the facts. If you’re falling for some perception then you are the problem because not only are you not paying attention but you have no concept of history or facts.

            Unfortunately this country is filled to the brim with people that are clueless, can’t remember what happened yesterday, and are misled by media to believe whatever nonsense they are gaslighting today.

            So ultimately you are right but people need to be reminded that Trump was front and center of all of this inflation instead of blaming someone that came in after the damage was already done.

            With all of this said, why would anyone look at Biden and say “oh just another old white dude”, but not come to the same conclusion with Trump? They are both old white dudes. So where are you getting this from? This is YOUR perception.

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              The bare minimum job requirement to being a politician is getting elected. If democrats can’t nail messaging like republicans then that’s on them, not on the average voter. Inflation didn’t really ramp up until trump left office and even though his actions contributed to this ramp up, the effects weren’t felt in full force until after he left. So what happens if you run on “we’re not trump”? People think back to the trump years, and other than when covid hit (which people can excuse as not the fault of the president), the economy seemed to be doing great, and there certainly wasn’t as big of an inflation problem as now.

              Also, democrats had multiple candidates running in 2020 who weren’t “another old white dude” but they asked all the candidates they could to clear the way for biden because they needed to focus their efforts to defeat their most feared enemy: Bernie Sanders.

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          Man I would love to see this, but its one of those things that I will believe when I see. I hope I have to eat my words on that too. Even if so, I dont think decriminalization would mean much to people in terms of getting out to vote. Most people who are really passionate about this over other issues have had the states handle it for them already. Dems waited too long for Federal Decriminalization to be a big motivator in a national election in my opinion.

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              They also divy it up so that it’s not really a victory. “We legalized weed*!”

              * For everyone over the age of 65, anybody who was born rich, if you own three patagonia jackets and people who attended an invitation only dinner with a bunch of billionaires.

              Then moderates turn around and whine “Why doesn’t anyone give credit to Democrats for all the good they’ve done???”

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        If biden loses, a big part of why will be the single issue “genocide Joe” kids who, like their predecessors, The Bernie Bros, took their vote and went home over something that was much smaller than the potential loss of democracy.

        Downvote all wish, the fact remains: had the Bernie bros not thrown a temper tantrum, there’s a good chance 2016 could have turned out differently.

        Disagreeing does not make this untrue.

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          When do we get to blame the shit candidate who lost instead? Bernie didn’t ignore and not campaign in multiple states because he thought they were in the bag, that was Hillary. Bernie didn’t conspire with the dnc to put up the worse polling candidate because it was “their turn”, that was Hillary. Bernie supporters didn’t say “we don’t need your vote” to the progressive voters, those were Hillary supporters.

          This shit makes me want to write Bernie in instead of holding my nose and voting for Biden like I did last time.

        • @Moira_Mayhem@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          The whole ‘bernie bros’ voting red is a digital propaganda point started by t_d, and spun off into 3 different Bernie subreddits that coincidentally were all modded by people from t_d.

          They worked tirelessly to flood facebook so it LOOKED like ‘bernie bros are gonna vote against their best interests in spite’.

          I mean there were a few actual progressives that flip flopped but most of them voted Jill Stein.

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            There’s a damn good chance that even more will die per minute if Trump is elected- but you can add to that his promise that he will absolutely be a dictator from day one. He’s already said he has no issue using our own military against us if necessary.

            What do you think this all means exactly?

            Go ahead. I’ll await your response.

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              israel’s end goal is complete ethnic cleansing of Palestine. They will achieve that whether biden or trump is in office. There is no worse candidate in this particular case, because both unconditionally lick the ass of israel.

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                Are you having difficulty keeping up with the point of my original comment?

                It’s entirely fair and necessary to criticize ANYONE for the things they do that fly in the face of human decency…

                But I’m not talking about criticism. I’m talking about the people that admittedly are blatantly refusing to vote because of it- while simultaneously thinking it won’t be their fault when we wind up with a dictator in a throne.

                Because they WILL be blamed for this.

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                  It won’t be their fault. It’s their vote. It’s up to the candidate to win the vote. If they don’t win the voter’s vote; say, by aiding in a genocide, then it’s the candidate’s fault. We need to stop blaming voters because they don’t condone genocide, and start blaming candidates for abiding it.

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                    It’s not blaming voters- it’s blaming NON voters.

                    If you sit at home doing nothing- you can’t in your right mind expect to make any change in the world. When Trump gets elected because theres not enough votes to cancel out his droves of mindless supporters- it WILL be the fault of those staying home and pouting.

                    Want change? Make change. But doing nothing will net you exactly that.

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              You’re right, those children deserved to die!!! In fact, democrats should run on the messaging of “fuck them kids”, that’ll get voters to eagerly run out and vote for them.

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                You appear to have more concern for their children’s safety than 74% of Palestinians do. Hamas puts their lives in jeopardy, uses them as human shields, yet still remains popular.

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                  Do you honestly think the Palestinians don’t care about their children? You’re just repeating israeli propaganda that dehumanizes Palestinians. Please think before spreading such fascist sentiments.

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          Having contempt for voters is like blaming the weather when it rains. Maybe the candidate should have came prepared with an umbrella, but here we are.

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      Biden really needs to understand how unpopular he is. Not that he will, but I can dream.

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        I really don’t want another run of Trump pardoning psychopaths and doing what he wants. But democracy is basically in the hands of Dems and they scrap by when it comes to connecting with people or even giving them a vision post beating Trump.

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          The only way Trump is “connecting” with people is by telling them grandiose lies and making impossible promises.

          Annoyingly, a shitton of people are willing to go along with those lies without thinking about it or questioning anything.

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            If only the “good guys” would do what the voters they depend on to win are demanding instead of trying to court Republican votes.