• @BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca
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    10 months ago

    You overestimate humans with your argument.

    You couldn’t even make your comment right now if a teacher hadn’t taught you english, you couldn’t have typed it if engineers hadn’t created computers and keyboards, you couldn’t have posted it without network technicians who setup and run the internet…

    The modern world is literally the combined work of billions of humans.

    If you were left alone as a baby, you’d be dead.

      • @Jozzo@lemmy.world
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        510 months ago

        You cant really compare like that, learning is an input and regurgitating is an output.

        Humans learn and regurgitate much the same as an AI learns and regurgitates.

        A human can only output things based on input it’s received in the past. Try imagining a new color. Any color you could possibly come up with is just some combination of colors that already exist. By painting with purple are you not “regurgitating” the work of red and blue?

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      10 months ago

      Okay so according to your logic, it is impossible for us to have this conversation. No human could’ve invented those things, therefore they can’t exist.

      Or are you saying humans can learn, but our capacity for that is greatly amplified by the knowledge humanity gave us?

      If it’s the latter, yeah, we’re standing on the shoulders of giants. But AI is fundamentally different, that’s the point of the comment above.

      AI could never in however many million years get to the point humanity has gotten to, because we humans learn, and AIs don’t. They would stagnate without humans even if they could train from each other.

      • @BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca
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        110 months ago

        How is it fundamentally different?

        AIs can learn, it’s totally possible to setup one that will remember what you’ve said in future answers. The fact that they don’t have their own agency is irrelevant. They still learn the same way we do, by looking at a ton of examples, and then trying and receiving feedback from trainers.

        Lets say you record yourself walking in a mall, and the mall has copyrighted music playing in the background. Do you need to pay copyright to make that recording? No. You would only need to pay copyright if you then played the video in a commercial context.

        So the recording, processing, and storing of the copyright material does not require a license. Only the playback. Which in the case of AI doesn’t happen, they don’t produce exact copies of copyright material because the exact copyrighted data isn’t actually stored inside them. They may be similar in nature, but revealing the plot of a book you read to others is not considered a copyright infringement.