• Joelk111
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      711 months ago

      I don’t need to. Is there a way to charge EVs there? Then EVs will likely be charged there. Is there not a way to charge EVs there? Then EVs probably won’t be charged there.

      • @sizzler@lemmy.world
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        111 months ago

        Well here’s a photo I took in Oxford where the cable is coming out of a lamppost. I’m all for electric cars but I can’t see a reasonably safe solution to all the cars on the street being connected.

    • Hypx
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      -611 months ago

      Which is the truth, pretty much everywhere. There simply won’t be enough chargers, likely ever.

      It’s a repeat of what happened to biofuels. It was hyped as the magic solution for fossil fuels, until people began to realize that we weren’t in any position to scale up production of biofuels to the levels needed. After a brief period when we fantasized about ideas like cellulosic ethanol or algae oil, which never really happened BTW, we ultimately just gave up on biofuels.

      Battery powered cars are likely to do the same thing. We are at the point were we are realizing that this won’t scale up. There’s going to be a brief period of fantasy solutions to the problem too, but those probably won’t happen either. After that, we will move on from BEVs.

      • @Sl00k@programming.dev
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        611 months ago

        Battery powered cars are likely to do the same thing. We are at the point were we are realizing that this won’t scale up.

        This is a very Western (US especially) argument. All across major cities in the East, China specifically you’re already seeing major cities becoming increasingly electrified far far beyond what is both being done in the US currently and what is capable of being done by the US in the next 10 years.

        • Hypx
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          -111 months ago

          Then China is just repeating Brazil. Brazil was one of the few countries that could pull off biofuels in a real way. But it was a unique situation, and it doesn’t work elsewhere.

          • @yamanii@lemmy.world
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            111 months ago

            The problem is that biofuel costs ballooned some years ago and I don’t know a single person that still uses it since you get more km with regular gas, biofuels had a sweet magic price for some time but it has gone way up.

            • Hypx
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              111 months ago

              That’s true of ethanol, but not biodiesel. High cost is a consequence of insufficient supply. Basically, it was how the market stopped further biofuel growth.