How come I take the south African government less seriously? Oh yeah, the centralisation of power, the centralisation of wealth, the vast amount of unemployment, poverty and corruption. I mean, who do they think they are? The US?
To be fair, they have a very good knowledge of what apartheid states (like Israel) look and act like.
Recognizing that Israel has moved from the “regular” oppression and killing of their sub-citizen population into full-on genocide is something that much of the rest of the world seems to be having trouble with.
If any country in the world has a leg to stand on about criticizing an apartheid state like Israel…
South Africa’s government is a mess but most of the people in it lived through apartheid. Regardless of other issues, this is something that they are absolutely qualified to speak on.
You do realise that the elites running South Africa are as white as snow, right? I’m not talking about the mouthpieces that pose as being representative of the people, but those who actually hold the bag, those who are in positions of privelige and power because of apartheid.
This is an issue, where people conflate governments, government bodies, oligarchs and elites in general with the people of a country. People dgaf about common South Africans, or indeed even common Russians or common Palestinians, but the second a branch pipes up like they did something, it’s gold stars and the drawing gets put up on the fridge?
Why? Why does a BRICS country, laden by corruption caused by apartheid, get glorified for opposing apartheid? It makes no goddamn sense. It’s like Putin looking for Nazis in Europe… bro, you didn’t need to cross borders for that.
Well, the government is currently run by the ANC, and the statement was made by them.
Like, yah the ANC is supper corrupt and serving as a mouth piece for those business interests that benefited for apartheid, plenty of criticism to be levied at how they’ve failed to address inequality in the country and let important infrastructure fall apart while rich funks loot the country blind.
But they’re the party who cut their teeth on opposing apartheid and settler colonialism? Like, that’s their whole thing? They’re literally Nelson mandala’s party? If anyone is qualified to be criticizing Israel for their apartheid system and settler colonialism it is them.
I can both hold them in contempt for being shit heads and recognize that they might know what they’re talking about when is comes to criticizing apartheid?
How come I take the south African government less seriously? Oh yeah, the centralisation of power, the centralisation of wealth, the vast amount of unemployment, poverty and corruption. I mean, who do they think they are? The US?
To be fair, they have a very good knowledge of what apartheid states (like Israel) look and act like.
Recognizing that Israel has moved from the “regular” oppression and killing of their sub-citizen population into full-on genocide is something that much of the rest of the world seems to be having trouble with.
Argumentum ad hominem. They’re right about this and they deserve plaudits for being the ones to open the case.
I’m saying it’s performative, but whatever you say, chief.
If any country in the world has a leg to stand on about criticizing an apartheid state like Israel…
South Africa’s government is a mess but most of the people in it lived through apartheid. Regardless of other issues, this is something that they are absolutely qualified to speak on.
You do realise that the elites running South Africa are as white as snow, right? I’m not talking about the mouthpieces that pose as being representative of the people, but those who actually hold the bag, those who are in positions of privelige and power because of apartheid.
This is an issue, where people conflate governments, government bodies, oligarchs and elites in general with the people of a country. People dgaf about common South Africans, or indeed even common Russians or common Palestinians, but the second a branch pipes up like they did something, it’s gold stars and the drawing gets put up on the fridge?
Why? Why does a BRICS country, laden by corruption caused by apartheid, get glorified for opposing apartheid? It makes no goddamn sense. It’s like Putin looking for Nazis in Europe… bro, you didn’t need to cross borders for that.
Well, the government is currently run by the ANC, and the statement was made by them.
Like, yah the ANC is supper corrupt and serving as a mouth piece for those business interests that benefited for apartheid, plenty of criticism to be levied at how they’ve failed to address inequality in the country and let important infrastructure fall apart while rich funks loot the country blind.
But they’re the party who cut their teeth on opposing apartheid and settler colonialism? Like, that’s their whole thing? They’re literally Nelson mandala’s party? If anyone is qualified to be criticizing Israel for their apartheid system and settler colonialism it is them.
I can both hold them in contempt for being shit heads and recognize that they might know what they’re talking about when is comes to criticizing apartheid?