given the scrutiny around Tesla, it’s interesting this story doesn’t seem to have come out sooner since this is a fairly novel workplace accident

  • mars296
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    1811 months ago

    Yes but if for example management is pressuring employees to make repairs in X amount of time that causes them to have to rush, its the company’s fault. Similar to Norfolk Southern giving train engineers 45 seconds per train car to do safety inspections.

      • alyaza [they/she]OPM
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        Every worker is and should be pressured and monitored to ensure they’re working efficiently. That doesn’t give them carte blanche to disregard safety protocols.

        the latter will necessarily follow from the former in almost every situation, because “inefficient workers” often get fired or are led to believe they will be fired and they have to make up the difference in that perception somewhere. this is still the company’s fault

          • alyaza [they/she]OPM
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            711 months ago

            “over-stressing workers and pressing them to be as efficient as possible, causing them to cut corners with safety” is such a universal point of failure that it’s frequent in every modern industry and a contributing factor in a huge number of workplace incidents and industrial disasters. respectfully, you would have to actively ignore reality to hold the position you currently do, and if you think that’s the worker’s fault and not the company incentivizing them to do unsafe things to keep their jobs, i can really only describe you as a corporate apologist or bootlicker

              • @explodicle@local106.com
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                311 months ago

                FWIW I’ve been a mechanical engineer for decades and they are right about this. Trust me instead. They’re probably reacting with hostility because you’re way out of line here; what you’re arguing is anti-labor.

                There is a profitable balance between productivity and safety, and they’ll say one thing while firing people who are too unproductive.

                  • @explodicle@local106.com
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                    211 months ago

                    Oh so your experience matters, but mine doesn’t? I’ve presented the same quality of evidence that you have. There isn’t a worse “look” than tirelessly arguing that labor is at fault for what we’re de facto forced to do.

      • mars296
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        611 months ago

        Yes but sometimes an employer’s idea of efficiency and the real world do not line up. They won’t tell employees to disregard safety protocols or urinate in bottles explicitly. It becomes the only way for the employee to meet their quota and keep their job.