• queermunist she/her
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      What’s funny is I can’t tell if you’re talking about younger Americans refusing to hate China or older Americans chanting “China Bad!”

      • @nekandro@lemmy.mlOP
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        Both tbh

        American failures are being used to prop up Chinese successes. This is particularly true in urbanism discussions. China is by no means perfect and thinking that they are is harmful to progress.

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              The USA is less than 5% of the world’s population but has 24% of the world’s prisoners. Who is authoritarian?

              Prisoners in the USA produce over $11Bn worth of goods for for-profit corporations unde slave labor. Who has slave labor?

              The USA has camps that concentrate native Americans and South Americans into very small space where they die diseases of poverty and neglect. Who has concentration camps?

              The US Congress, upon revelations that the US military was spying on every single American citizen by recording every single phone conversation, text message, and all internet traffic, granted retroactive immunity to all the companies that helped the military do this. Who has an unfettered domestic spying apparatus?

              The USA produces almost nothing, yet, the per-capita carbon footprint of America is vastly larger than the per-capita carbon footprint of China. Who spews more carbon shamelessly?

              The purchasing power of the average Chinese person is higher than the purchasing power of the average American. In 70 years, China lifted 800 million people out of poverty. In those same 70 years, the US has gotten worse on life expectancy, infant mortality, and maternal mortality. Who exploits their people more?

              The USA sterilized black and brown women well into the 1970s under eugenics programs that they started well before the Third Reich.

              Everything you think you know about China has come from a wide array of news sources, all of which publish that exact same political line, and all the opposing viewpoints are crushed before they even make it to the editors. Forbes magazine is part of a media empire built by the fortune of the Forbes who built a financial empire funded by the Forbes who built a railroad empire funded by the Forbes that made his fortune selling opium to China when the British literally forced the Chinese to reverse their laws banning opium at gunpoint. Who controls their media?

              Your perspective is so thoroughly saturated with centuries of propaganda that you can’t even imagine the idea that it’s wrong. You literally don’t even know what would constitute evidence that you are wrong.

                • @freagle@lemmygrad.ml
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                  Seriously? Are that uninformed? Literally everything I said is well documented as massively larger on the USA side than on the China side. The USA has always had the largest prison population on the planet per capita, even during the height of the GULAG system in the USSR. There really is no way China is worse. Do some basic research.

                • macabrett[they/them]
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                  Correct, from the information given in the post above, it seems like America is doing it all on a much larger scale.

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                This is really just common knowledge at this point.

                E: looks like the CCP has even infiltrated the mods of this community.

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                  Its actually all sourced from one single guy who has stated it is his mission from God to bring down China.

                  It’s common knowledge because propaganda is incredibly effective.

                  • @HughJanus@lemmy.ml
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                    one single guy who has stated it is his mission from God to bring down China.

                    LOL what? Which guy is that?

                    propaganda is incredibly effective

                    That much becomes more clear to me every day. I didn’t realize there were CCP trolls in Lemmy already.

                • Jack.M
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                  I get paid 100000000 Xi bucks every time I remove a post. Obviously Lemmy is the most important social media platform in the world that China needs to control at all costs. The communists have even banned brainrot racism on this subreddit.

                • Krause [he/him]
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                  E: looks like the CCP has even infiltrated the mods of this community.

                  lmao, “everyone who refuses to swallow US propaganda is part of the sissypee”

            • Trudge [Comrade]
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              The mere act of public protest is illegal

              What do you mean public protest is illegal. Public protests against the zero-covid policy forced the government to ease up on restrictions. I don’t think a single person was sentenced for that tantrum yet somehow China’s prohibiting protests?

              Their entire economy is built on the backs of people who are paid pennies per hour.

              Yeah Chinese laborers were paid pennies per hour by mostly Western capitalists (and increasingly internal Chinese capitalists). How is that the government’s fault? Chinese law mandates minimum wage increases so they are trying to do something about it and mostly succeeding.

              I don’t know why I bothered to even respond. You’re literally a CCP bot who makes these weird allegations against the CCP to make anti-China people look crazy. Be gone from lemmy and make your 50 cents somewhere else. I banish you.

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              Edit: Where are all the haters and doubters now? Never, ever underestimate my banishment magic again. It was specifically designed to counter CCP energy back in the 12th century by my landowning ancestors.

                • queermunist she/her
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                  And that “tantrum” was people literally having the doors of their homes welded shut so that they couldn’t leave.

                  That never happened. They welded some doors on apartment buildings so that only one entrance was available, and then screened that entrance for signs of fever. They did this because those doors did not have locking mechanisms, because usually having multiple entrances is a good thing. In the specific context of the pandemic, they wanted to track everyone.

                  And it worked. There’s a reason 1.1 million people died in the US and 121k died in China.

                  China’s Zero COVID policy was among the best in the world. Obviously they never accomplished Zero COVID, but they saved countless lives while we were marched to our deaths.

                  • @HughJanus@lemmy.ml
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                    Dude what in the absolute fuck are you even talking about? Once again, I ask, why would the CCP send people around the internet to talk shit about them? This is a classic Trump tactic of accusing other people of the thing you’re doing. However yours is particularly pathetic and non-sensical. Bye bye now.

            • @dubyakay@lemmy.ca
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              That’s why it costs significantly less to import virtually everything from the opposite side of the planet.

              This is not true. It’s so cheap to get the goods here because Canada and USA subsidizes the freight services from taxpayer money.

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              No no no, clearly you’re suffering under Western propaganda. In China there is zero crime and everyone gets a golden car on their 15th birthday. It’s true and If you disagree you’re a propaganda chicken. (/s)