Moxie helped WhatsApp integrate the Signal protocol for e2ee, but I dont trust thatt they never implemented any backdoors in their protocol after Moxie was done helping them.
Do you believe everything you hear a company say who has proven themselves to be untrustworthy?
End to end doesn’t necessarily mean that the middle can’t read it, it just means strangers listening can’t read it. WhatsApp isn’t open source, and auditing that encryption on a binary level would prove difficult.
As we have seen, companies can also bow to the wills of governments, and if enough pressure is applied they often agree to backdoors.
The key word is stranger. WhatsApp made the encryption you’re using and could (and I’m sure does) have the ability to decrypt it.
True end to end is where you and your partner have keys and you both encrypt on the client side, and don’t tell the middle man. That way no malicious intent from the server could ever decrypt the actual message.
True end to end is where you and your partner have keys and you both encrypt on the client side, and don’t tell the middle man. That way no malicious intent from the server could ever decrypt the actual message.
That’s how the Signal protocol they’re using is working
Well WhatsApp already has it
Moxie helped WhatsApp integrate the Signal protocol for e2ee, but I dont trust thatt they never implemented any backdoors in their protocol after Moxie was done helping them.
IMO, just use Signal anyways. Fuck Meta
Sure, Jan.
Huh?
Do you believe everything you hear a company say who has proven themselves to be untrustworthy?
End to end doesn’t necessarily mean that the middle can’t read it, it just means strangers listening can’t read it. WhatsApp isn’t open source, and auditing that encryption on a binary level would prove difficult.
As we have seen, companies can also bow to the wills of governments, and if enough pressure is applied they often agree to backdoors.
If it’s not open source, it’s a scam.
I thought it meant nobody between the two ends can read it.
End->(public network)->WhatsApp->(public network)->End
So, no stranger can read it.
The key word is stranger. WhatsApp made the encryption you’re using and could (and I’m sure does) have the ability to decrypt it.
True end to end is where you and your partner have keys and you both encrypt on the client side, and don’t tell the middle man. That way no malicious intent from the server could ever decrypt the actual message.
That’s how the Signal protocol they’re using is working
WhatsApp is not peer to peer.
Nobody said it was?
Can we verify they are still using the Signal protocol?
Not realiably, afaik
If they are, they’ve probably modified it.