I agree, but I don’t know how much you can help these people to the point that they don’t do those things at all.
They’re people who will always have unusual behaviour and use the bus. And as selfish as it may sound and despite wanting them to get the help they need, it’s uncomfortable to be around.
Before the 1980s tory cuts there was hospital housing. Including full time RMN nursing ( my parents job before retirement.) The tories care in the community approach was just a community approach with no funding for care.
There’s also that they might be sane enough in the moment to refuse treatment but not sane enough long term to improve, stop, or be aware that they’re causing that much of a problem.
[Proofreading edit: The following is mostly me working through some stuff, but it might still be relevant? It’s certainly apt if it’s some guy rambling about something and nothing and disturbing people though.]
I say this as someone currently with agoraphobia, and bus-phobia, which, yes, is the exact opposite of a problem passenger (can’t be a problem if you’re not on the bus), but I can easily see myself in their shoes. In fact that might be part of the bus-phobia. Force me onto a bus and I don’t know how I’ll react. I don’t want to be that guy.
Also, I’ve kind of lost confidence in treatment, which I’m well aware isn’t going to help any kind of therapy to work. (Also, I’d have to go somewhere where the therapy is, because I don’t want people in my house.)
Agoraphobia is one of those things that makes itself worse. Do you have some people in your life that you’re ok with visiting? Maybe they can help dip your toes back into the pool of the public. Just walk around your building first, nothing more. Go from there and little by little
There is also virtual visits. You can have a video visit with therapists and doctors from the comfort of your desk. Yhere are free things too (people to call, services, etc), but Im not sure what’s around you.
I’ve been there. I think about 2 years of my life I wouldn’t leave the house without my mom.
Many mental illnesses can be equated to a broken bone.
For example, If someone broke their femur (upper leg bone), that’s devastating and definitely would cause someone to “bark” in pain. We rushbto care and help them. We sit by them, hold their hand say comforting things and get that person help and sympathize with the pain. That poor guy.
With mental illness, it is treated as a problem and looked at with disgust.
If you needed help and no one would help you because they are “uncomfortable around you, think that it’s your fault, that you did this to yourself”?.. you will stop reaching out for help. Then it just gets worse from there.
The people who have the mental capacity to help are neglecting those who are at their lowest.
I agree, but I don’t know how much you can help these people to the point that they don’t do those things at all.
They’re people who will always have unusual behaviour and use the bus. And as selfish as it may sound and despite wanting them to get the help they need, it’s uncomfortable to be around.
Before the 1980s tory cuts there was hospital housing. Including full time RMN nursing ( my parents job before retirement.) The tories care in the community approach was just a community approach with no funding for care.
There’s also that they might be sane enough in the moment to refuse treatment but not sane enough long term to improve, stop, or be aware that they’re causing that much of a problem.
[Proofreading edit: The following is mostly me working through some stuff, but it might still be relevant? It’s certainly apt if it’s some guy rambling about something and nothing and disturbing people though.]
I say this as someone currently with agoraphobia, and bus-phobia, which, yes, is the exact opposite of a problem passenger (can’t be a problem if you’re not on the bus), but I can easily see myself in their shoes. In fact that might be part of the bus-phobia. Force me onto a bus and I don’t know how I’ll react. I don’t want to be that guy.
Also, I’ve kind of lost confidence in treatment, which I’m well aware isn’t going to help any kind of therapy to work. (Also, I’d have to go somewhere where the therapy is, because I don’t want people in my house.)
Agoraphobia is one of those things that makes itself worse. Do you have some people in your life that you’re ok with visiting? Maybe they can help dip your toes back into the pool of the public. Just walk around your building first, nothing more. Go from there and little by little
There is also virtual visits. You can have a video visit with therapists and doctors from the comfort of your desk. Yhere are free things too (people to call, services, etc), but Im not sure what’s around you.
I’ve been there. I think about 2 years of my life I wouldn’t leave the house without my mom.
Yeah, I get it. Only by forcing myself into uncomfortable situations am I going to be able to beat this.
So, I’m already screwed because that ain’t happening.
Many mental illnesses can be equated to a broken bone.
For example, If someone broke their femur (upper leg bone), that’s devastating and definitely would cause someone to “bark” in pain. We rushbto care and help them. We sit by them, hold their hand say comforting things and get that person help and sympathize with the pain. That poor guy.
With mental illness, it is treated as a problem and looked at with disgust.
If you needed help and no one would help you because they are “uncomfortable around you, think that it’s your fault, that you did this to yourself”?.. you will stop reaching out for help. Then it just gets worse from there.
The people who have the mental capacity to help are neglecting those who are at their lowest.