• @grte@lemmy.ca
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    1 year ago

    No, he’s saying Israel built it for Israel’s purposes. He’s claiming that Hamas has been using it (presumably since Israel pulled out of Gaza in '05). But Israel using structures it built as casus belli to blow up a hospital looks really bad on Israel’s part.

    • Flying SquidM
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      111 year ago

      I think any reason to blow up a hospital makes Israel look bad, but if I misunderstood what he meant, fair enough.

      • MxM111
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        51 year ago

        The justification is that Hamas uses hospitals for their purposes and they have bunkers and tunnels there. Why would it matter who build the bunkers? IDF is trying to destroy Hamas who uses hospital (with bunkers). Per this article the bunkers were built for hospital medical use.

        • Flying SquidM
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          61 year ago

          Per this article the bunkers were built for hospital medical use.

          I’m sure Israel would love people to think they built bunkers under a hospital for medical use.

          • MxM111
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            11 year ago

            Why else would they build them? This was before Hamas came to power, when Israel was occupying Gaza permanently.

            • Flying SquidM
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              01 year ago

              To store munitions? That’s what bunkers are for. Or do you think Israel wouldn’t store munitions in Gaza?

                • Flying SquidM
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                  11 year ago

                  So Israel did not use bunkers to store weapons but Hamas did. Seems a little propagandistic to me.

                  • @nonailsleft@lemm.ee
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                    11 year ago

                    Well the crux here is that it’s not a bunker but a basement. Of course the Israeli government likes the translation into ‘bunker’ a little bit better

              • MxM111
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                11 year ago

                Why would they do it under hospital? I understand the ugly logic of Hamas doing this, but Israel would not make any sense. There was no reporting of them doing that, ever.

          • MxM111
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            1 year ago

            Unfortunately, I trust Hamas even less. However, there was an interview of a doctor who worked at this hospital, who did confirm that Hamas was using it.

            • ToAllPointsWest
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              11 year ago

              @MxM111 @jeena @FlyingSquid @grte The question is was the doctor under duress by Israeli forces? It’s not like Israel plays it straight, or has any reason to. Israel has used human shields, Israel has attacked and is currently attacking Palestinians in the West B. ank where Hamas isn’t, Israel even violated the ceasefire first. So let’s not pretend that they are an honest broker, because they aren’t

              • MxM111
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                21 year ago

                Was than Hamas? The one whose goal is to “run Jews to the sea”? The one who started all this by purportedly killing civilians? Really?

                  • MxM111
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                    01 year ago

                    Today you are watching war, in which IDF is hunting Hamas for attacking Israel and killing more than 1000 people. Hamas uses civilians as human shields that leads to additional deaths that otherwise would happen in any war. After Hamas killed those civilians, Israel had no other alternative but to react to this. Hamas has main objectives to destroy Israel and as long mg as it exists, it will try to repeat the massacres again and again, and there would be no peace and Palestinian people are and will be suffering because of that. Put the blame where it is - on the terrorist organizations that uses their own citizens as human shields in order to create reaction from people like you. And the more you react the more Hamas will use human shields for its perposes - because it’s working and Palestinians be damned. Only complete elimination of Hamas can have chance of peace.

      • @grte@lemmy.ca
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        1 year ago

        I mean, in Barak’s mind he’s probably attempting to justify the bombing. In a sane person’s eyes it looks really bad.

        • Flying SquidM
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          31 year ago

          Maybe that’s the problem. The so-called justification just went over my head. Because it’s fucking nuts. How many innocent people who were in need of hospital care did they kill? Including children? And then claim it’s because Hamas uses human shields…