Still needs waaay more effort just to do (some) simple stuff a normal person might just expect to work.
Just installed Mint on a laptop to replace W10. Went really smoothly, and was quite impressed.
Thought I’d try a bit of emulation with Yuzu. Wanted to use a Switch pro controller. Plug and play? Nope. Tried Xbox one controller instead. Neat. Works. I can live with that.
But then thought I’d try a bit of Xbox game stream. No controller works with browser. Try obvious things to fix.
Looked for answers and they’re all like, someone going: oh, you just need to clone the controllerwaffelen driver from git, then just compile the installer using the command sudo apt get- monkeyshyte wtf -make then run the installer from the folder using cmake- getfuckednoob.
I don’t know what any of this is. Tried following instructions.
And, frankly, I cannot be fucked to spend four hours finding out / troubleshooting for something I would have thought was fairly coomon.
It’s not a deal breaker, it’s just another bit of faff and fuckaboutiness that puts me off. And, I suspect would others even less tech minded.
I understand your frustration, and I’ll try to provide a solution that’s as straightforward as possible. While Linux offers a lot of customization and power, it can sometimes require more technical effort for specific tasks like controller setup.
Checking Compatibility: First, let’s ensure your Xbox controller is compatible with Linux Mint. Most Xbox controllers should work well, but it’s good to verify.
Configuration: Linux Mint typically uses the XInput system for game controllers. Sometimes, extra configuration is needed to get controllers working smoothly.
Reboot: It’s a simple step, but sometimes restarting your computer can help resolve hardware recognition issues.
Updates: Make sure your system and packages are up to date. Open a terminal and run:
sudo apt update
sudo apt upgrade
Install “xboxdrv”: If the built-in driver isn’t working as expected, you can try installing the “xboxdrv” package, which can provide better controller compatibility. Run:
sudo apt install xboxdrv
Calibration: After installing xboxdrv, you can calibrate your controller by running:
sudo xboxdrv--detach-kernel-driver--silent
This command should help with controller recognition.
CMake and Driver Compilation (if needed): If the previous steps don’t resolve the issue and you’re instructed to compile a controller driver using CMake, follow these additional steps:
Cloning the Repository: Use the git command to clone the controller driver repository from Git. Replace `` with the actual URL of the repository:
git clonehttps://www.yourwebsite.com
Compiling the Software: Navigate to the cloned repository folder using the terminal. Create a build directory:
mkdir build
cd build
Generate the build files with CMake:
cmake ..
Build the software:
make
Installation: After successfully building the software, you may need to install it. This can usually be done with the following command:
sudo make install
Browser Game Stream: If you’re using a web browser for Xbox game streaming, ensure you’re using a browser that fully supports it. Google Chrome is a good choice for this.
Test: Finally, test your controller in a web-based game streaming service like Xbox Cloud Gaming to see if it works as expected.
If these steps don’t resolve the issue, please provide more details about your system, controller model, and any error messages you encounter during the process. I’ll do my best to assist you further.
I agree, and that 80% was surprisingly pleasant and smooth experience, compared to my last stab at Linux, about 10 years ago. At least this time I didn’t git any driver issues.
But, that last 20% can be kind of a big deal if you need anything from within in…
I’d like to have the time to learn how to use Linux properly, but between a full time job (unrelated to an OS), young family, and other commitments it’s just not a priority.
I had a play out of interest, and it’s pretty good, but still not 100% usable “out of the box” for me. And how to do that remaining 20% is completely out of many Linux-naive users experience (using the terminal / command line). 20 clicks is easier, as all I’m doing is confirming yes or no on something, that I’m usually given enough information and context to be able to evaluate.
And I suspect that’s true of many many others. Which was the point of my original reply (which I’d hoped to be more humorous than insulting to people, but c’est la vie…).
To try and put it in another context:
It’s really nice to be offered a lift somewhere I need to get to, but if I get kicked out the car and have to walk the remaining 20% of the way, then next time maybe I’ll just get the bus/train/taxi. It might cost more, but at least I know I won’t have to worry if I’ll get there or not.
Also, as a new user, I didn’t know why I was seeing multiple versions of the same packages to install (flatpak etc). Googling to see which is best leads to the inevitable answer of “It depends”, which a new user might not be able to answer…
(I’m not so much speaking to you directly, and I know this is a meme post, but I’m more thinking about the handful of people in the community who seem to always reply along the lines of “people should switch to Linux, because [reason here]. And, yes, people need to learn how to x”, without demonstrating any understanding of nuance around other people’s competing priorities / skills / abilities.)
Urgh. Wish this were true, but nope.
Still needs waaay more effort just to do (some) simple stuff a normal person might just expect to work.
Just installed Mint on a laptop to replace W10. Went really smoothly, and was quite impressed.
Thought I’d try a bit of emulation with Yuzu. Wanted to use a Switch pro controller. Plug and play? Nope. Tried Xbox one controller instead. Neat. Works. I can live with that.
But then thought I’d try a bit of Xbox game stream. No controller works with browser. Try obvious things to fix.
Looked for answers and they’re all like, someone going: oh, you just need to clone the controllerwaffelen driver from git, then just compile the installer using the command sudo apt get- monkeyshyte wtf -make then run the installer from the folder using cmake- getfuckednoob.
I don’t know what any of this is. Tried following instructions.
And, frankly, I cannot be fucked to spend four hours finding out / troubleshooting for something I would have thought was fairly coomon.
It’s not a deal breaker, it’s just another bit of faff and fuckaboutiness that puts me off. And, I suspect would others even less tech minded.
I understand your frustration, and I’ll try to provide a solution that’s as straightforward as possible. While Linux offers a lot of customization and power, it can sometimes require more technical effort for specific tasks like controller setup.
Checking Compatibility: First, let’s ensure your Xbox controller is compatible with Linux Mint. Most Xbox controllers should work well, but it’s good to verify.
Configuration: Linux Mint typically uses the XInput system for game controllers. Sometimes, extra configuration is needed to get controllers working smoothly.
Reboot: It’s a simple step, but sometimes restarting your computer can help resolve hardware recognition issues.
Updates: Make sure your system and packages are up to date. Open a terminal and run:
sudo apt update sudo apt upgradeInstall “xboxdrv”: If the built-in driver isn’t working as expected, you can try installing the “xboxdrv” package, which can provide better controller compatibility. Run:
sudo apt install xboxdrvCalibration: After installing xboxdrv, you can calibrate your controller by running:
sudo xboxdrv --detach-kernel-driver --silentThis command should help with controller recognition.
CMake and Driver Compilation (if needed): If the previous steps don’t resolve the issue and you’re instructed to compile a controller driver using CMake, follow these additional steps:
Cloning the Repository: Use the
gitcommand to clone the controller driver repository from Git. Replace `` with the actual URL of the repository:git clone https://www.yourwebsite.comCompiling the Software: Navigate to the cloned repository folder using the terminal. Create a build directory:
mkdir build cd buildGenerate the build files with CMake:
cmake ..Build the software:
makeInstallation: After successfully building the software, you may need to install it. This can usually be done with the following command:
sudo make installBrowser Game Stream: If you’re using a web browser for Xbox game streaming, ensure you’re using a browser that fully supports it. Google Chrome is a good choice for this.
Test: Finally, test your controller in a web-based game streaming service like Xbox Cloud Gaming to see if it works as expected.
If these steps don’t resolve the issue, please provide more details about your system, controller model, and any error messages you encounter during the process. I’ll do my best to assist you further.
This is gpt-satire… i think?
Mint is Debian based?
… thanks GPT?
Lol, really does read in chatGPTs “voice”…
Buuuut 80% of things can just be installed via a package manager, which takes one command rather than 20 clicks.
I agree, and that 80% was surprisingly pleasant and smooth experience, compared to my last stab at Linux, about 10 years ago. At least this time I didn’t git any driver issues.
But, that last 20% can be kind of a big deal if you need anything from within in…
I’d like to have the time to learn how to use Linux properly, but between a full time job (unrelated to an OS), young family, and other commitments it’s just not a priority.
I had a play out of interest, and it’s pretty good, but still not 100% usable “out of the box” for me. And how to do that remaining 20% is completely out of many Linux-naive users experience (using the terminal / command line). 20 clicks is easier, as all I’m doing is confirming yes or no on something, that I’m usually given enough information and context to be able to evaluate.
And I suspect that’s true of many many others. Which was the point of my original reply (which I’d hoped to be more humorous than insulting to people, but c’est la vie…).
To try and put it in another context:
It’s really nice to be offered a lift somewhere I need to get to, but if I get kicked out the car and have to walk the remaining 20% of the way, then next time maybe I’ll just get the bus/train/taxi. It might cost more, but at least I know I won’t have to worry if I’ll get there or not.
Also, as a new user, I didn’t know why I was seeing multiple versions of the same packages to install (flatpak etc). Googling to see which is best leads to the inevitable answer of “It depends”, which a new user might not be able to answer…
(I’m not so much speaking to you directly, and I know this is a meme post, but I’m more thinking about the handful of people in the community who seem to always reply along the lines of “people should switch to Linux, because [reason here]. And, yes, people need to learn how to x”, without demonstrating any understanding of nuance around other people’s competing priorities / skills / abilities.)
Aaaaanyway, gonna go Google “Linux 101” lessons…