Senior men have higher rates of suicide than average, and firearms were involved in more than three-quarters of those deaths in 2021, according to a CDC report

  • @PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee
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    11 year ago

    Oh apparently its permissable to not provide links when you do it.

    But don’t worry, I know what the numbers are so I wont deliberately waste your time in an act of bad faith in the hope that next time you just let people spread misinformation.

    Even disregarding that nowhere has gun laws that allow violent, suicidal people to acquire guns as easily as America, numbers are not the whole story.

    Every time widespread means reduction has been implemented, those numbers have gone down.

    I’m sorry if that hurts your guns feelings.

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      I can easily post sources and do when it’s important. You usually don’t and you make some very bold claims, and seem to never back up your claims. Ever.

      Your statement “I know what the numbers are” is verification of that. You are basically saying “if you don’t know, I am not going to tell you”, just like a child.

      Most of all, Karen, if you want to talk about bad faith, let’s talk about your constant and consistent need to get quippy and obtuse. You obviously have strong feelings about this subject, but your delivery is just bad. You aren’t going to convince anyone of anything by being smug.

      Guns are machines. Guns don’t have feelings. Guns don’t jump up and magically shoot things because they got pissed off. Guns don’t call people stupid or get emotional. Guns don’t get drunk and rape kids or beat their spouse.

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        I can easily post sources and do when it’s important

        Can you post a source for this claim?

        Your statement “I know what the numbers are” is verification of that. You are basically saying “if you don’t know, I am not going to tell you”, just like a child.

        You mean in my reply to you not posting the numbers that you said you looked at?

        So not only do I have to spoon feed you the numbers, I have to spoonfeed you the numbers even after you claim to have checked them, without actually posting what they were or where you read them.

        Sounds like you either lied about your fact checking or are holding me to a standard you don’t hold yourself to so that you can get upset.

        Most of all, Karen, if you want to talk about bad faith, let’s talk about your constant and consistent need to get quippy and obtuse.

        Probably not a good insult to throw around when you’re being functionally identical to an anti-vaxxer.

        You obviously have strong feelings about this subject, but your delivery is just bad. You aren’t going to convince anyone of anything by being smug.

        I’m so sorry. How dare I call you out for pushing dangerous misinformation without also cradling your head in my lap, stroking your hair and telling you that you’re my special special boy.

        That’s surely the problem and not that the pro-gun community is self-absorbed, backed by a powerful lobby group and will literally threaten to kill people if they propose changes to gun laws.

        Guns are machines

        For killing people

        Guns don’t have feelings

        Nope, but the legsl gun owners sure do do and they don’t seem to be able to control them.

        Guns don’t jump up and magically shoot things because they got pissed off

        Nope, you’re thinking of legal gun owners again

        Guns don’t call people stupid or get emotional.

        Which is a shame, because thats a massive improvement over things like “mutilating a room full of children beyond recognition after they were legally sold to a teenager, despite known red flags, by a company that targets their advertising at teenagers

        Guns don’t get drunk and rape kids or beat their spouse.

        Yep, legal gun owners again. But don’t worry, gun lobby groups have publicly stated those people should keep their guns, no matter their history of domestic violence.

        All linked, as per your demands because the important part of this conversation – far more important than the lives of innocent and vulnerable people – is that it happens in a tone and manner that you have personally approved.