Sanders says he doesn’t know that a ceasefire is possible ‘with an organization like Hamas’ | CNN Politics
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Independent Sen. Bernie Sanders said Sunday he doesn’t know that a ceasefire is possible in the Israel-Hamas war with “an organization like Hamas” involved.

Independent Sen. Bernie Sanders said Sunday he doesn’t know that a ceasefire is possible in the Israel-Hamas war with “an organization like Hamas” involved.

“I don’t know how you can have a ceasefire, (a) permanent ceasefire, with an organization like Hamas, which is dedicated to turmoil and chaos and destroying the state of Israel,” Sanders told CNN’s Dana Bash on “State of the Union” Sunday.

  • @idiomaddict@feddit.de
    0•1 year ago

    thousands

    Again, there are millions of Palestinians currently in danger. Thousands have been killed by Israel in a month. I don’t see how hamas is a larger threat than Israel.

    I’m not a fan of Hamas. They’re there because someone hasn’t allowed Palestine to have an election in over a decade. Taking out Hamas’ ability to govern and rule could be done quickly by allowing an election.

    • @mwguy@infosec.pub
      1•1 year ago

      I don’t see how hamas is a larger threat than Israel.

      If Hamas retains it’s military might, how many more wars causing thousands of casualties a month will happen in the next 5 years?

      • @idiomaddict@feddit.de
        0•1 year ago

        If Israel agrees to a ceasefire, then allows aid to flow in and new elections to be freely held, Hamas will cause zero wars in the next five years, because they won’t have any power.

          • @idiomaddict@feddit.de
            1•1 year ago

            Hamas ran on an entirely different platform (of moderation) to a different group of voters. Why not see what happens?

            • @mwguy@infosec.pub
              0•1 year ago

              Convince the EU to support sanctions until an election. That’s what’s keeping Hamas going.

              • @idiomaddict@feddit.de
                1•1 year ago

                Netanyahu has been seen sending covert money to Hamas and has been alleged on multiple times to have said that Hamas is good for the Israeli government (which might have been true before October).

                Sanctions would simply be an expansion of the siege. Collective punishment is against the Geneva conventions. What grounds are there to sanction a people for having a government they themselves dislike but which they are forbidden from voting out of power? Further, how is that better than organizing a vote? Palestinians will starve to death between then and now, if they’re sanctioned.

                • @mwguy@infosec.pub
                  0•1 year ago

                  You can’t continue to give Hamas more money and claim to support elections in Gaza. Giving them money is defacto support for a non-democratic Gaza Strip.

                  • @idiomaddict@feddit.de
                    1•1 year ago

                    I don’t want to give Hamas money, because I don’t support Hamas. I want to give Palestinian people access to food, water, healthcare, safe shelter and education, ideally through NGOs, until an election can be held.

                    Then, if the government elected is Hamas or worse, you still support the populace through NGOs, because they’re still people, and lack of education and stability have never made a group less extremist. The cost of basic social services and life supports for a few million people is far smaller than the cost of the weapons to eradicate them

                    Israel has in the last month specifically targeted hospitals, schools, Red Cross/red crescent vehicles, and MSF operations. That’s why the ceasefire is a necessary first step.