• Buelldozer
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    11 year ago

    A secret service vehicle likely has fully automatic weapons inside

    No one should be leaving weapons and especially full automatic weapons unattended in a god damn vehicle!

    …who knows what level of sensitive real time info on presidential movements.

    How fucking dumb do you have to be to leave sensitive security information lying around unattended in a vehicle!

    It wasn’t just an “unoccupied car” it was a liability that could lead to real danger to the public.

    Any vehicle so stuffed with weapons and confidential information that it needs to be defended by lethal force shouldn’t be parked and left unattended on a public street! Everything that you’ve offered isn’t justification for lethal force, it’s describing behavior so negligent that it would literally rise to the level of CRIMINAL PROSECUTION for any regular person.

    • @theyoyomaster@lemmy.world
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      21 year ago

      The guns wouldn’t just be laying across the back seat but they have to be stored somewhere. Most law enforcement vehicles have fixed weapon mounts or ways to lock them in the trunk. The problem is that if the vehicle is stolen it takes 5 min with a power tool to get through virtually any vehicle based mount. The locks prevent smash and grabs but with full possession of the vehicle the guns are up for grabs. As for information, an encrypted laptop is one thing but even knowing which frequencies and codes are used that day might be valuable to the wrong person. I don’t know, I’m not USSS but I am an Air Force pilot who has flown them all over the world and been in their cars/limos. I also know how loading military encryption into the jet is and I imagine it’s not too different from their gear. On a side note, when you see a USSS dog in a “do not pet” vest, it’s not illegal to ask to pet it. I have petted sooooo many “do not pet” goodbois.

      • Buelldozer
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        The problem is that if the vehicle is stolen it takes 5 min with a power tool to get through virtually any vehicle based mount.

        I’m aware of vehicle mounts and the ease at which firearms can be removed from them. Its why every LE agency I’m aware of has a policy that you can’t leave the vehicle unattended with weapons stored in them.

        …an encrypted laptop is one thing…

        These should not be left in an unattended vehicle. Even a complete moron knows not to leave valuables in a parked car in the D.C. area and the USSS are not morons. They are people and they fuck up occasionally but they are not morons.

        I am an Air Force pilot…

        Then you should be well aware of the rules regarding the handling of classified information. At the most basic level its not lawful to leave it unattended in any area where someone with insufficient clearance could gain access to it.

        The USSS Personnel who discharged their firearm(s) weren’t fighting off terrorists or trying to keep weapons or confidential information secure. According to the released details they fucked up and fired when they shouldn’t have at suspects who presented no clear danger.

        I have petted sooooo many “do not pet” goodbois.

        Goodbois deserve all the pets, as long as you have permission. 🙂

    • @SCB@lemmy.world
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      literally rise to the level of CRIMINAL PROSECUTION for any regular person.

      Yeah no shit dude it’s the secret service.

      You honestly don’t want the SS to have guns stashed inside vehicles? Really?

      Cmon bud. Think this through.

      How fucking dumb do you have to be to leave sensitive security information lying around unattended in a vehicle!

      Literally everything about the vehicle is sensitive security information