• @alt@lemmy.ml
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    11 year ago

    I want to avoid os-tree if I can, since that seems to defeat the purpose.

    How so?

    • @DidacticDumbass@lemmy.one
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      21 year ago

      Oh, I totally misunderstood the OS. I was under the impression that using os-tree should be totally avoided for anything other than necessary system programs, and all other software should be installed with flatpaks or containers.

      I now understand that using os-tree for some programs is inevitable, and I should embrace it, though still catiously to maintain as clean of an OS as possible for maximum longevity.

      • @alt@lemmy.ml
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        11 year ago

        I was under the impression that using os-tree should be totally avoided for anything other than necessary system programs

        Interaction with ostree directly shouldn’t occur that often; with sudo ostree admin pin *number* (and its -u option) probably being the commands your average Joe should interact with. You probably meant rpm-ostree.

        and all other software should be installed with flatpaks or containers.

        It’s indeed true that initially Fedora intended flatpaks should be preferred. If the software isn’t available there, then Toolbx(/Distrobox) is used to access it through a container. And if all else fails, then it’s layered through the rpm-ostree command.

        I now understand that using os-tree for some programs is inevitable, and I should embrace it, though still catiously to maintain as clean of an OS as possible for maximum longevity.

        You’re getting the drill! Though, I wonder why you weren’t able to rebase to uBlue and had to resort to installing the Nvidia drivers through RPM Fusion instead. It’s fine as long as it works, but I imagine that some issues might arise eventually. So consider sharing the steps you took so that the community might help out; perhaps even over at uBlue Discord. You could also just share it here if you will.

        • @DidacticDumbass@lemmy.one
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          21 year ago

          Honestly, I just followed the steps here: https://rpmfusion.org/Howto/NVIDIA#OSTree_.28Silverblue.2FKinoite.2Fetc.29

          I was diligent about following the configuration guide first: https://rpmfusion.org/Configuration

          I think the key is restarting at every step it asks you to, and maybe after anything that seems major or is a prerequisite for another set of program installs. I mean, I got a black screen the first time, but after a hard reset, it just worked.

          No doubt UBlue is probably a lot easier. I did not realize I could have just downloaded the ISO instead of trying to rebase, but I like what I am running.

          Anyways, doing it the hard way is helping me learn the intricacies of an immutable system, so I am having fun.

          • @alt@lemmy.ml
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            11 year ago

            Ah, I got it now thanks for the explanation!

            Indeed, in your case acquiring uBlue through its ISO was probably the best option in your case; but I’m glad to hear that it worked out in the end!

            Anyways, doing it the hard way is helping me learn the intricacies of an immutable system, so I am having fun.

            Well said!

            Just in case; consider the following:

            • Pin your current working deployment with the aforementioned sudo ostree admin pin 0 command. This should remain accessible regardless unless you unpin it later on. This should allow you a working deployment if all else fails and thus a safe haven to rely on.
            • @DidacticDumbass@lemmy.one
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              21 year ago

              Oh nice! I will do that. I see this as save scumming for real life!

              Speaking of, save scumming is a habit I need to rid myself of. I need to allow myself to fail in Baldur’s Gate and other games.