Lol you think I hadn’t already checked that during this discussion? I don’t need to go to hexbear to see it, lemm.ee is still federated so it shows up in my local modlog. What’s weird is that my ban on lemmy.ml doesn’t for some reason, it looks like a bug where it didn’t federate through properly - the comments shown as removed on the lemmy.ml modlog are still there on lemm.ee.
here’s one of your removed comments:
mod Removed Comment Actually Palestinians started the violence. They fought a war, they lost. That doesn’t excuse anything Israel has done, but credit where credit is due. Hamas are not freedom fighters, that isn’t their goal. Their goal is to eradicate anyone that doesn’t share their beliefs. Freedom for the people of Palestine and peace in the region, but the likes of Hamas and Netanyahu can suck a bag of each others’ virgin dicks. by TWeaK@lemm.ee
So what exactly in that is genocide apologia? Just because I’m criticising Palestinian attacks gone past does not mean I support Israel’s response in any way. The comment literally finishes with me criticising both sides - ie, implying that all genocide is wrong.
the reason you were site banned was because you were having a meltdown over getting a comm ban for your genocide apologia (lmao)
It wasn’t a meltdown, the message I sent was very tame - sarcastically thanking him for getting me banned. Feel free to dig it up, it was posted on Chapo. You’d struggle to call it “malding” - but then, that’s what you’re all about isn’t it? Slapping a bullshit label that really doesn’t fit, then arguing against that label. It’s a form of scarecrow argument, one that is completely transparent when you actually look at it.
I didn’t “both side” the genocide - that would be saying that both sides are justified in committing genocide. I’m saying anyone who commits genocide is wrong. Meanwhile, there are a bunch of people caught up in the middle of it all. You would apparently dehumanise one portion of these people, because you value the other portion more. That is reprehensible.
In any case, we’re not talking about my justification, we’re talking about hexbear moderators’ justification - of which there apparently is none. Thus, my point stands: hexbear is a dumpster fire; and that implies that hexbear devotees are trashy.
There is an active genocide happening, and I wish Israel would stop.
That doesn’t mean I agree with the coordinated strike by Hamas on 7 October. Frankly, I don’t think any reasonable person could see that as achieving any useful objective for the safety of Palestinian people. It was highly effective at killing Israelis, but the net result could only have been more suffering for Palestine.
There’s definitely no easy solution - if there was the problem would have been solved by now. All anyone can say is that what’s happening now is wrong. Meanwhile, there are many people profiting from the situation. Warmongers gotta monger some war.
My view is that Netanyahu wants to benefit from war, and that Hamas have been encouraged by people who want the same. 50 years isn’t all that long ago to most people, but hardly anyone in Palestine is old enough to remember the last Yom Kippur war.
Hamas is a creation of Israels own actions. They have a history of erratic behavior politically including fighting alongside ISIS. They are still the elected government such as it is. It’s absolutely sickening seeing comfortable westerners acting like they have some kind of right to pass judgment on people living in such a situation. They fight back however they can, and it’s not going to be pretty because war and colonial occupation is not clean.
There is a simple solution, but it would either require Israel to stop being an ethnostate or stop existing so that a government which represents everyone in occupied Palestine can exist.
Imagine if Hamas had only targeted military installations in their attack, allowing almost everyone at the festival to flee and not raiding villages. Their incursion was incredibly effective - they could still have used drones to take out cell phone towers and prove that Netanyahu’s early warning system was deeply flawed, and sniped the skeleton crew in the guard towers, then they could have focused their efforts on infrastructure damage to the military base or other legitimate targets. Hell, they probably even could have still taken a few hostages to use for actual negotiations - and in this scenario negotiations would be far more realistic to happen.
Exercising restraint would have presented a far better underdog for the world to get behind. It would have clearly shown that Israel’s defence was weak. Instead, they allowed themselves to be riled up by their financial backers and went on a killing spree, putting the focus squarely on them, not Israel. Most people don’t even know how they did it, just what they did when they got in, because what they did was so shocking. This played right into the hands of people who just wanted an excuse to expend some ordnance and kill them all.
There is a simple solution, but it would either require Israel to stop being an ethnostate or stop existing
It’s simple to say that, but the practical application of doing that is anything but simple.
I already said don’t care about your bullshit hand-wringing about the what-ifs an occupied people could have or should have done so that they would be a model minority for you (one who gets exterminated without putting up too much of a fight)
There is a simple solution, but it would either require Israel to stop being an ethnostate or stop existing
It’s simple to say that, but the practical application of doing that is anything but simple.
Yeah, America would need to stop supporting it and its ongoing genocide for that to happen.
Lol you think I hadn’t already checked that during this discussion? I don’t need to go to hexbear to see it, lemm.ee is still federated so it shows up in my local modlog. What’s weird is that my ban on lemmy.ml doesn’t for some reason, it looks like a bug where it didn’t federate through properly - the comments shown as removed on the lemmy.ml modlog are still there on lemm.ee.
So what exactly in that is genocide apologia? Just because I’m criticising Palestinian attacks gone past does not mean I support Israel’s response in any way. The comment literally finishes with me criticising both sides - ie, implying that all genocide is wrong.
It wasn’t a meltdown, the message I sent was very tame - sarcastically thanking him for getting me banned. Feel free to dig it up, it was posted on Chapo. You’d struggle to call it “malding” - but then, that’s what you’re all about isn’t it? Slapping a bullshit label that really doesn’t fit, then arguing against that label. It’s a form of scarecrow argument, one that is completely transparent when you actually look at it.
I don’t care about your justification for both siding an ongoing genocide
I didn’t “both side” the genocide - that would be saying that both sides are justified in committing genocide. I’m saying anyone who commits genocide is wrong. Meanwhile, there are a bunch of people caught up in the middle of it all. You would apparently dehumanise one portion of these people, because you value the other portion more. That is reprehensible.
In any case, we’re not talking about my justification, we’re talking about hexbear moderators’ justification - of which there apparently is none. Thus, my point stands: hexbear is a dumpster fire; and that implies that hexbear devotees are trashy.
There is an active genocide happening, and you are going “all lives matter” because the brown people are being violent and resisting.
There is an active genocide happening, and I wish Israel would stop.
That doesn’t mean I agree with the coordinated strike by Hamas on 7 October. Frankly, I don’t think any reasonable person could see that as achieving any useful objective for the safety of Palestinian people. It was highly effective at killing Israelis, but the net result could only have been more suffering for Palestine.
There’s definitely no easy solution - if there was the problem would have been solved by now. All anyone can say is that what’s happening now is wrong. Meanwhile, there are many people profiting from the situation. Warmongers gotta monger some war.
My view is that Netanyahu wants to benefit from war, and that Hamas have been encouraged by people who want the same. 50 years isn’t all that long ago to most people, but hardly anyone in Palestine is old enough to remember the last Yom Kippur war.
Hamas is a creation of Israels own actions. They have a history of erratic behavior politically including fighting alongside ISIS. They are still the elected government such as it is. It’s absolutely sickening seeing comfortable westerners acting like they have some kind of right to pass judgment on people living in such a situation. They fight back however they can, and it’s not going to be pretty because war and colonial occupation is not clean.
There is a simple solution, but it would either require Israel to stop being an ethnostate or stop existing so that a government which represents everyone in occupied Palestine can exist.
Anyone murdering civilians is sickening.
Imagine if Hamas had only targeted military installations in their attack, allowing almost everyone at the festival to flee and not raiding villages. Their incursion was incredibly effective - they could still have used drones to take out cell phone towers and prove that Netanyahu’s early warning system was deeply flawed, and sniped the skeleton crew in the guard towers, then they could have focused their efforts on infrastructure damage to the military base or other legitimate targets. Hell, they probably even could have still taken a few hostages to use for actual negotiations - and in this scenario negotiations would be far more realistic to happen.
Exercising restraint would have presented a far better underdog for the world to get behind. It would have clearly shown that Israel’s defence was weak. Instead, they allowed themselves to be riled up by their financial backers and went on a killing spree, putting the focus squarely on them, not Israel. Most people don’t even know how they did it, just what they did when they got in, because what they did was so shocking. This played right into the hands of people who just wanted an excuse to expend some ordnance and kill them all.
It’s simple to say that, but the practical application of doing that is anything but simple.
I already said don’t care about your bullshit hand-wringing about the what-ifs an occupied people could have or should have done so that they would be a model minority for you (one who gets exterminated without putting up too much of a fight)
Yeah, America would need to stop supporting it and its ongoing genocide for that to happen.
Oh come on now, you criticise me, but you’re the one who thinks bloody murder is justified. You really are reprehensible.
Yes America is everything that matters in this situation. Grow the fuck up and step out of your basement.