• @Gabu@lemmy.world
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    281 year ago

    Imagine if the roles were reversed, and it was China arming i.e. Panama. How would you feel then

    False equivalence, Panama’s risk of being suddenly invaded in the current political climate is nearly zero. Taiwan (is #1), on the other hand, has to be ever vigilant. Also, Panama doesn’t house the ‘rightful’ government of the US.

      • @Gabu@lemmy.world
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        131 year ago

        Same deal. They’ve suffered an unjust embargo, sure, but are under no real threat of invasion.

      • @OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml
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        I probably should have said Cuba in my main comment. Doesn’t look like it helped people understand, though!

        • @cjsolx@lemmy.world
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          61 year ago

          There’s nothing to understand, it’s the same situation. Neither Panama nor Cuba are currently under threat from the USA. The USA does not claim ownership over either, and is not threatening their sovereignty.

          You’re the one not understanding the false equivalency.

          • @OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml
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            Would you feel comfortable with China putting weapons on Cuba? Because the US got real upset last time, and as you said, the US doesn’t even have plans to invade Cuba (anymore)

    • @OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml
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      1 year ago

      Obviously they’re different. But failing to empathize when given the analogy shows either the inability or unwillingness to understand China’s position.

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        I understand the PRC’s position just fine because they’ve been explicit about it for decades: They believe that Taiwan, an island they’ve never controlled, is theirs by imperial right based on the Qing dynasty’s rule over it for ~200 years prior to 1900.

        We don’t need to “empathize” with a desire for imperial conquest, we just need to stand in the way of it.

      • @EatATaco@lemm.ee
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        The US wouldn’t be arming Taiwan if China wasn’t making the claim that it is part of China. Taiwan poses literally zero threat to china. There is no US comparison here.

        It’s the same shit with Ukraine and Russia, and China is watching closely. It’s probably easier politically for Republicans to fund a nation not in conflict, because the deterrence doesn’t look like as big a win for Biden, so this is why they intelligently to along with it.

        • bufalo1973
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          -91 year ago

          From Wikipedia:

          Taiwan, officially the Republic of China (ROC), is a country in East Asia.

          What were you saying?

          • @OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml
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            Wait until you hear about the official names of China, or North and South Korea

            (For the uninitiated: People’s Republic of China, Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, and Republic of Korea. Tl;dr there’s more than one issue if you’re going off the country’s official name for which land they own)

          • @EatATaco@lemm.ee
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            31 year ago

            What’s your point? Did you just stop there and not read the next sentence that says “It is located at the junction of the East and South China Seas in the northwestern Pacific Ocean, with the People’s Republic of China (PRC) to the northwest”?

            • bufalo1973
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              01 year ago

              My point is that Taiwan IS a part of China. Two different governments but the same country. And both say they are the “real” China.

      • @Gabu@lemmy.world
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        41 year ago

        I’ll piss on the CCP any day of the week, thank you very much. I’m a communist, by the way.

      • Nobsi
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        21 year ago

        Nobody needs to understand chinas positions. They are irrelevant.