• @Fades@lemmy.world
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    You are dead wrong to imply a single vote can not or has not made the difference to win elections. Even if the national isn’t decided by a single vote local votes matter and they are where these razor thin margins are prevalent.

    The only way we will hear the actual voice of the people is if everyone who can speak does so.

    Lastly, what is the harm in voting? It takes very little effort, especially if you are in a mail-in state. It could make some difference, that makes it worth it easy or not

      • @jo3jo3@lemmy.world
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        -241 year ago

        I voted third party or did a write in the last few cycles, people told me I voted for fascism doing that. So how can I win? 🤣

        • Flying Squid
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          161 year ago

          By voting for one of the only two candidates who has a chance of winning, but picking the one who will do the least damage and keep doing that over and over again until you get someone who isn’t terrible.

          People want change overnight.

          • @jo3jo3@lemmy.world
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            -121 year ago

            No. Absolutely not. I morally cannot vote for the one “who will do the least damage” Not a chance, that’s a complete waste of my vote in my opinion, and at that point what’s the difference if I just sit out? Nobody is happy if I don’t vote, that’s wrong, I’m supposed to vote for someone I don’t like so another candidate that I dislike even more doesn’t win. What the fuck change will ever happen in a lifetime with that strategy? This shits broken, I’m not participating anymore because of it, my vote, my choice how I use it, I choose not to use it.

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              Fine. Then Trump wins.

              Also, why does it have to change in your lifetime? Does the future matter that little to you?

              • @jo3jo3@lemmy.world
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                -111 year ago

                I honestly don’t care. I had nothing to do with how he got there the first time, if I use my vote, it will do absolutely nothing to stop him a second time. Also… Dems could nominate someone besides Biden… Everyone in this thread acts like my one vote makes all the difference, it doesn’t, it won’t, this thing is rigged in every way possible, the whole system should be better, I didn’t create it, I didn’t make the rules.

                I’m from Washington state, so again, my vote doesn’t matter, that’s the way the system works. My state will go blue with or without me participating.

                The whole entire everything needs a complete overhaul, and it’s not going to happen. It’s just a show. Maybe we get the orange clown again, maybe not, who knows, I really don’t care.

                • Flying Squid
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                  101 year ago

                  You honestly don’t care about the future? What a strange attitude. I suppose you’re in favor of us using fossil fuels in that case. What difference does it make? You won’t be around when it gets really bad.

                • @Fades@lemmy.world
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                  I honestly don’t care

                  And there it is. If you “don’t care” then you are complicit in the depths of depravity and corruption. You may deserve it but the rest of us do not.

                  Oh well I can’t vote for someone unless they are Jesus fucking Christ himself!! If the candidate isn’t perfect I can’t vote for em!!!

                  Do you fucking hear yourself?? You disgust me, the world is quite literally a worse place because of you and those like you. In reality I have no doubt this is just lazy low effort trolling from you. Pathetic.

            • @assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world
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              Trump’s policies will kill more Palestinians than Biden’s. It will also lead to more discrimination against LGBT people.

              How many lives are your morals worth? How much suffering?

              Edit: removed some of my argument that was overly harsh

                • I think I was going to say that they have no right to bitch and moan if they didn’t vote for a serious candidate. They make a choice to accept whatever the outcome is, and then they complain about the outcome anyway.

                  Do they think the system has ever been fair? We’re truly a pathetic generation of so called liberals if we’re too apathetic to fight for a better world. Civil rights, gay rights, women’s suffrage, labor rights – they went up against a much worse situation, and they didn’t balk.

    • @jo3jo3@lemmy.world
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      -191 year ago

      To be fair, in all my responses, I am mostly referring to presidential elections, I’m not arguing that the small local stuff can and does matter, and sometimes those races come down to just a few votes. Ya that’s true.

      Don’t think there’s any harm in it at all, I just don’t care, and if I don’t care I’m not engaged and educated on all the issues, then should I really be voting? Or is better I sit out since I’m not following anything at all and can’t make good informed decisions anymore?

      • @jo3jo3@lemmy.world
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        -171 year ago

        Lots of downvotes 🤣 Confused as to why on this specific comment! I am supposed to make uniformed decisions when I vote? Because your downvotes make it seem like I need to vote whether I’m informed or not, which seems just as silly or dumb as anything else in this thread…

        • @Psychodelic@lemmy.world
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          I think it’s because it seems like you’re saying “I’m ignorant, there’s nothing I can do. Woe, is me. Also, I like to be this way and people that aren’t ignorant like me are actually the ones that are ignorant because they think things matter. Except, I’ll admit, somethings actually do really matter, just not the most important things, which as I’ve said and demonstrated I’m very ignorant about.”