• @wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one
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        01 year ago

        Because nothing youve said is coherent. You imply that this is a black and white “eating meat requires abuse and causes all problems vs. veganism solves all abuse and causes no problems” and have made it clear you arent interested in ahaking yourself of that mentality.

        Youre ears and eyes are full of sand. Talking to you is as productive as climbing everest naked.

        • @nicetomeetyouIMVEGAN
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          1 year ago

          Eating meat requires a victim. You literally have to kill another being for it. You can’t deny this, because it’s a fact. And vegans do not want to participate in that. This isn’t complicated. You choose to participate in the victimization of animals when you are eating an animal that is grown and/or killed for your products. Doesn’t matter the circumstances, doesn’t matter how, why, when. The animal that is killed is a victim, doesn’t get much clearer than that.

          You’re making it out to be black and white because a child can do this logic. But it’s not black and white, there are plenty of edge cases to discuss, and that’s literally what the vegan community is doing all the time with many proponents of many different opinions.

          But we’re vegan because we accept this simple logic and wish to minimise it as much as possible. And food is the easiest, since our body doesn’t need it. Plenty of vegan solutions available for the many cases where animals are victims. No need for leather, no need for wool, no need for honey, etc. Minimising animal victims is the goal here. It can never be zero, it can never be black and white.

                  • @wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one
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                    -11 year ago

                    You are calling wool shorn sheep victims, with a straight face. You listed honey bees as an example of victims.

                    You called me pointing out that you arent capable of discussing this topic rationally an opinion, and then proved my point.

                    You make diglett jealous with how deep into the mantle youve gone.