Computers and databases with logistics didn’t exist in 1918. Walmart and Amazon have strong central planning. Chile began to do it in 1971 with Project CyberSyn, but the CIA and capitalism couldn’t have that in their backyard.
Edit: There is a failure of imagination concerning what socialism and communism could like in the future. Lenin was materially bound by his time. Actual Communism (worldwide) might look sufficiently different than what’s been done before.
Yeah, I think we have proven over and over that human nature doesn’t do communism well at large scales. Not that I don’t think at small scales it’s a perfectly good system. Capitalism isn’t really any better tho. I don’t have a solution for how to avoid the pitfalls of socialism and communism. Worker owned means of production is really the thing I want, attainable or not. No single person should own all of the gains off the backs of worker blood, sweat, and tears.
I think there are a LOT more problems than just that, but yeah.
You can more or less “break” libertarianism and many anarchies by asking about “what happens to the orphans?”. For Communism and its derivatives, the question is usually “Who gets to be a scientist, a doctor, a movie star, and the person who cleans out the sewers? And do they all get the same benefits?”
The problem with communism is bcz it requires strong central planning it tends to devolve into authoritarianism quickly.
Computers and databases with logistics didn’t exist in 1918. Walmart and Amazon have strong central planning. Chile began to do it in 1971 with Project CyberSyn, but the CIA and capitalism couldn’t have that in their backyard.
Edit: There is a failure of imagination concerning what socialism and communism could like in the future. Lenin was materially bound by his time. Actual Communism (worldwide) might look sufficiently different than what’s been done before.
Yeah, because a world run like Amazon sounds like such a utopia. /s
I liked bolo’bolo
Thanks, I’ll read it.
Yeah, I think we have proven over and over that human nature doesn’t do communism well at large scales. Not that I don’t think at small scales it’s a perfectly good system. Capitalism isn’t really any better tho. I don’t have a solution for how to avoid the pitfalls of socialism and communism. Worker owned means of production is really the thing I want, attainable or not. No single person should own all of the gains off the backs of worker blood, sweat, and tears.
Anarcho-Syndicalism or Anarcho-Communism? There’s the rub. I’m still exploring that myself.
I think there are a LOT more problems than just that, but yeah.
You can more or less “break” libertarianism and many anarchies by asking about “what happens to the orphans?”. For Communism and its derivatives, the question is usually “Who gets to be a scientist, a doctor, a movie star, and the person who cleans out the sewers? And do they all get the same benefits?”
Why would you rather have Amazon and Walmart plan your economy than a democratically elected government?
Communism doesn’t require central planning. The fact that you think it does tells me you don’t know what communism even is.