• @Rapidcreek@reddthat.com
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    -168 months ago

    Actually Zionism originated in the early 1900’s and had to do with establishing a homeland for Jewish people.

    I dislike Israel’s heavy handed approach, but I understand it. I dislike Bibi, because he never really stopped being a New Jersey bar bouncer (yeah he was, look it up). I also understood exactly the outcome of the Hamas attacks, and can understand the resulting war. I can also understand that civilians will be killed in this war as long as they are around Hamas.

    • @medgremlin@lemmy.sdf.org
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      148 months ago

      How are they supposed to not be around Hamas? They aren’t allowed to leave Gaza (whether it’s the IDF or Hamas preventing their departure doesn’t matter that much here). Even if they were allowed to leave Gaza, what money would they use to do it? Where would they go? How will they rebuild their lives away from the family and social network that they already have established with limited mobility, immigration options, or money?

      • @Rapidcreek@reddthat.com
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        -108 months ago

        I simply made a statement. Israelis aren’t going to not engage Hamas because they surround themselves with civilians. Its up to them to move.

        • @medgremlin@lemmy.sdf.org
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          138 months ago

          The Israeli government could fix the problem by putting an end to the settler attacks in the West Bank and the blockade of Gaza in pursuit of a true two-state solution. The easiest way to isolate Hamas would be to fully and properly recognize and protect the rights of Palestinian civilians in a way that would offer them a better life away from Hamas influence. All they’re doing right now is a massive recruiting campaign for Hamas.

          • @Rapidcreek@reddthat.com
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            -98 months ago

            That would not eliminate Hamas. Since the butchery early this month, that is the only goal. After that, maybe some ideas can be examined

      • @DoomBot5@lemmy.world
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        -118 months ago

        Even if they were allowed to leave Gaza, what money would they use to do it? Where would they go? How will they rebuild their lives away from the family and social network that they already have established with limited mobility, immigration options, or money?

        Maybe using international aid that isn’t being stolen by Hamas and used to make rockets.