What do you all think of the Red Hat drama a few months ago? I just learned about it and looked into it a bit. I’ve been using Fedora for a while now on my main system, but curious whether you think this will end up affecting it.
My take is that yes, it’s kinda a shitty move to do but I get why RH decided to stop their maintenance given they’re a for profit company.
What do you guys think? Do you still use or would you consider using Fedora?
Well, I moved away from Fedora with the licensing change and telemetry proposal. It’s a great distro and it’s pretty much the most cohesive experience I’ve had with linux, but those issues have made me wary. We’ll see where they go from here, but for now I’m looking elsewhere.
I have no problem with the telemetry, it’s anonymized and open source. It could help Fedora. Totally different from spooky proprietary telemetry
Also you have the ability to disable it right in the installer/welcome screen, before anything is being sent. Imo having good telemetry is important, and this is how it should be done!
People just see the word telemetry and get frightened without looking into it in any detail.
The problem is that lack of telemetry is one of the reasons why a lot of distros are still not as good as they can possibly be. FOSS should destigmatize telemetry, for innovation’s sake.
What was the Fedora licensing change? Are you talking about the RHEL source code now requiring a subscription?
The RHEL situation, yes.
Seems like a knee jerk reaction to me, but I was using Red Hat Linux 9 (not Red Hat Enterprise Linux 9) in ~2003 when they announced the split to RHEL (paid) and Fedora (community). At the time - I was peeved.
Here we are 20 years later and I just don’t get the feeling any move to encourage/enforce paying on the paid side would greatly impact Fedora.
Now the telemetry thing - I get having a reaction to the headline without context, but I also think they publicly announced it, announced WHY it would be opt-out, explained exactly what would be included (and not) - so if you don’t want it why not just opt out and know that it’s existence clearly helps improve a distro you appear to like?
If you’re using Ansible - disable it there. If you’re a heathen that does everything manually - it’s probably just a checkbox.
In the end - I dont “care” what you use, Linux is great because we all have options, but “rhel licensing change” and “Fedora telemetry” seem like really odd/uninformed reasons to abandon Fedora if you like it.
Cheers either way.
I didn’t know Fedora had telemetry - can it be turned off? It’s important in the FOSS world
At this point it’s a proposal targeting Fedora 40 and the exact implementation is up in the air. It will likely be opt-out, but yes, you could turn it off.
I think last time I installed it asked if I wanted to enable it at the end. By default it’s off.
Yeah I believe the primary problem (from the community) is that the telemetry was proposed to be default opt-out. Meaning the default choice is opted in.