So, they’ve already won. They just haven’t turned on the nuclear option yet.
They recently added what amounts to drm for the entire Internet to chrome, it is a way for them to disallow access to YouTube and other services via anything but an approved browser. This would include approved extensions.
So I’ll use something that isn’t chrome? Well, they will just block Firefox from YouTube. Making chrome and chrome derivatives via its Internet drm the only option.
They killed Netscape and had to put in a toggle with the option of other browsers like 10 years later. They paid next to nothing in fines and legal battles, basically putting a stranglehold on the internet itself that took another 10 to kinda of undo.
Eh, probably. But it’s for fighting those darned internet pirates, and the only body that seems to protect us anymore, the eu, seems to be all for that. So I’m.not expecting anything good
They are all for copyright protection, the current copyright reform act proposes automatic scanners installed to prevent copywritten content from being displayed without authorization
Even in the US, a corporate monopoly trying to force people to use their browser will trigger an antitrust lawsuit from the government. Microsoft has already faced one for what they did with Edge, and they didn’t even do DRM.
Besides, it’s YouTube. If you can’t use it anymore, it’s not gonna be the end of the world.
It’s not that simple, it’s not forcing everyone to use chrome, it’s denying access to copyrighted material to drmed browsers only. This is something that already happens and no one seems to want to break things up around that. Infaft they seem to legislate more for that.
And sure today it’s youtube, but this is actually a form of drm for everything. Today youtube tomorrow everything else.
That would be easy to challenge under the same reasoning as what’s in the article, not to mention various anti-trust laws and ones covering anti-competitive business practices.
Doesn’t mean it’s guaranteed to stop them, but it’s definitely not going to be as easy as them flipping a few switches and saying “watch ads on our browser with no addons or GTFO”.
I stopped using Chrome about 3 weeks ago. Used Edge for a while but finding out that is Chromium, I landed back on Firefox after 10 years of not using it. Just moved all my bookmarks and plugins.
Why? Principles the moment people force me to use their software is the moment I leave.
Not even Microsoft in its monolith days was able to spend enough money to stop a legion of angry nerds with a severe case of “fuck you, you can’t tell me what to do”.
YouTube is going to lose this battle lol.
Both from a legal standpoint and the fact that adblockers WILL adapt
So, they’ve already won. They just haven’t turned on the nuclear option yet.
They recently added what amounts to drm for the entire Internet to chrome, it is a way for them to disallow access to YouTube and other services via anything but an approved browser. This would include approved extensions.
So I’ll use something that isn’t chrome? Well, they will just block Firefox from YouTube. Making chrome and chrome derivatives via its Internet drm the only option.
A monopoly trying to lock in browsers isn’t going to last in the EU.
Or even the US. Microsoft lost that one in the late 90s.
They killed Netscape and had to put in a toggle with the option of other browsers like 10 years later. They paid next to nothing in fines and legal battles, basically putting a stranglehold on the internet itself that took another 10 to kinda of undo.
Not sure if that’s a “loss.”
Wrong decade. We’re talking about having internet explorer pre installed on windows 95 and 98. It was a really big antitrust thing.
microsoft is pulling all their dirty tricks from the 90s unchecked rn.
Ehh maybe, widevine exists for drm already. They will just claim its an extension of that.
Anti-trust lawsuit in 3… 2…
I hope they get annihilated by that lawsuit.
This will be legally challenged later, if it is not opt-in.
Eh, probably. But it’s for fighting those darned internet pirates, and the only body that seems to protect us anymore, the eu, seems to be all for that. So I’m.not expecting anything good
What makes you think the EU is for internet monopolies after the DMA?
They are all for copyright protection, the current copyright reform act proposes automatic scanners installed to prevent copywritten content from being displayed without authorization
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Nope i doubt that. Google is ‘to big to fail’ its a fundamental pillar of american force projection in the cyberspace.
I don‘t even worry. Some clever dudes will find a way to spoof Chrome with a Firefox extension
It’s a drm system, so we’re talking end to end encryption from server to display, but for evil. It’s not a spoof thing
Even in the US, a corporate monopoly trying to force people to use their browser will trigger an antitrust lawsuit from the government. Microsoft has already faced one for what they did with Edge, and they didn’t even do DRM.
Besides, it’s YouTube. If you can’t use it anymore, it’s not gonna be the end of the world.
It’s not that simple, it’s not forcing everyone to use chrome, it’s denying access to copyrighted material to drmed browsers only. This is something that already happens and no one seems to want to break things up around that. Infaft they seem to legislate more for that.
And sure today it’s youtube, but this is actually a form of drm for everything. Today youtube tomorrow everything else.
we’re going to go back to needing “apps” for everything on desktops soon. desktop covered in shortcuts for every shitty service we need to use.
God this passes me off
People are acting as if losing YouTube and other Google services is the end of the world. It is not. You don’t need Google, even if you use Android.
If they want their services to instantly die, sure.
Ah, you forget that the general population is perfectly OK with inconveniences.
Majority of people already use chrome
That would be easy to challenge under the same reasoning as what’s in the article, not to mention various anti-trust laws and ones covering anti-competitive business practices.
Doesn’t mean it’s guaranteed to stop them, but it’s definitely not going to be as easy as them flipping a few switches and saying “watch ads on our browser with no addons or GTFO”.
Most importantly, such a move would kill YouTube as a platform. Removing other browsers from the picture would cut off a majority of their viewers
Safari and chrome have the Web drm already. It’s really just Firefox that gets cut off.
I stopped using Chrome about 3 weeks ago. Used Edge for a while but finding out that is Chromium, I landed back on Firefox after 10 years of not using it. Just moved all my bookmarks and plugins.
Why? Principles the moment people force me to use their software is the moment I leave.
Fast track to getting people to stop using YouTube. No service or company is immune to this.
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Even with Google money?
Not even Microsoft in its monolith days was able to spend enough money to stop a legion of angry nerds with a severe case of “fuck you, you can’t tell me what to do”.