And what are they doing now? The only difference is that Hamas burning themselves might wouldn’t involve murdering countless civilians on both sides and that it might actually help their cause.
Edit: I’m not saying they should burn themselves. What they should do is the right thing, i.e. exactly what Germany did on May 8th 1945. That’s the only way out of this mess. Maybe they’ll sooner or later realize that getting bombed is simply what the return of the terror they unleashed it on your neighbors. We did here in Germany.
Israel’s bombing civilians indiscriminately and you’re blaming the Palestinians for resisting in a way besides killing themselves. You literally suggested self immolation. You explicitly said, literally killing themselves would be less futile than violence at the border.
I cannot imagine the belief set necessary to think that’s a defense.
So they’ve killed over a thousand people, bombed apartments to dust, demanded a whole city depopulate overnight, bombed the places those refugees were told to go, bombed the border crossings, etc., etc., etc. - and that’s deliberate. That’s the measured response! That’s what they did on purpose, with forethought.
And you suggested those victims of collateral damage should have SET THEMSELVES ON FIRE and DIED IN PROTEST, because that would’ve gone better. Like they should be thankful that Israel’s not, in your own words, ready to commit genocide.
This is the shit I would say as a vicious condemnation of Israel. This is damning criticism of their conduct, when they have all the land and all the power and all the money, and their victims primarily resist by throwing rocks. How in the name of god do you write this crap and still think that’s positive, for Israel?
Where do you get off comparing-- “the return of the terror they unleashed it on your neighbors,” meaning Palestine, terrorizing Israel?! Israel! The modern military discriminately blowing up apartments! The force you glibly suggest could end it all - “otherwise this would be over!” - with just a little killing the entire population?
If they didn’t at least try to avoid hitting civilians on we’d see completely different numbers of victims. The area is densely populated. If Israel wanted to or at least didn’t care about hitting civilians we’d see what we saw in German cities in WW2: firestorms and without the bunkers and air defense that Germany had back then, that would mean tens or hundreds of thousands of deaths.
The numbers are simply prove that Israel is more or less telling the truth about what they do: They aim at terrorists and unfortunately have some collateral damage because these terrorists hide behind civilians.
Yes, the balance of power is one sided. Yes, they could kill the entire population. But they haven’t. That proves that - unlike Hamas - Israel isn’t interested in genocide. Because that is the difference here. Hamas wants to commit genocide. So of course I’m thankful that it’s Israel and not Hamas with the power. Israel is no saint but the alternative is much, much worse.
Phew yeah good thing Israel’s only killed orders of magnitude more Palestinians than Hamas has killed Israelis, up until this one retaliatory event that retroactively justifies all that death and destruction. That’s classic Good Guy behavior. Just mumble the tiniest mote of criticism and pretend the alternative, singular, is an additional order of magnitude.
Palestine is lucky Israel doesn’t want the problem solved, finally.
And what are they doing now? The only difference is that Hamas burning themselves might wouldn’t involve murdering countless civilians on both sides and that it might actually help their cause.
Edit: I’m not saying they should burn themselves. What they should do is the right thing, i.e. exactly what Germany did on May 8th 1945. That’s the only way out of this mess. Maybe they’ll sooner or later realize that getting bombed is simply what the return of the terror they unleashed it on your neighbors. We did here in Germany.
Israel’s bombing civilians indiscriminately and you’re blaming the Palestinians for resisting in a way besides killing themselves. You literally suggested self immolation. You explicitly said, literally killing themselves would be less futile than violence at the border.
And you think that makes Hamas the Nazi analogue.
They aren’t. Otherwise this would be over.
I cannot imagine the belief set necessary to think that’s a defense.
So they’ve killed over a thousand people, bombed apartments to dust, demanded a whole city depopulate overnight, bombed the places those refugees were told to go, bombed the border crossings, etc., etc., etc. - and that’s deliberate. That’s the measured response! That’s what they did on purpose, with forethought.
And you suggested those victims of collateral damage should have SET THEMSELVES ON FIRE and DIED IN PROTEST, because that would’ve gone better. Like they should be thankful that Israel’s not, in your own words, ready to commit genocide.
This is the shit I would say as a vicious condemnation of Israel. This is damning criticism of their conduct, when they have all the land and all the power and all the money, and their victims primarily resist by throwing rocks. How in the name of god do you write this crap and still think that’s positive, for Israel?
Where do you get off comparing-- “the return of the terror they unleashed it on your neighbors,” meaning Palestine, terrorizing Israel?! Israel! The modern military discriminately blowing up apartments! The force you glibly suggest could end it all - “otherwise this would be over!” - with just a little killing the entire population?
If they didn’t at least try to avoid hitting civilians on we’d see completely different numbers of victims. The area is densely populated. If Israel wanted to or at least didn’t care about hitting civilians we’d see what we saw in German cities in WW2: firestorms and without the bunkers and air defense that Germany had back then, that would mean tens or hundreds of thousands of deaths.
The numbers are simply prove that Israel is more or less telling the truth about what they do: They aim at terrorists and unfortunately have some collateral damage because these terrorists hide behind civilians.
Yes, the balance of power is one sided. Yes, they could kill the entire population. But they haven’t. That proves that - unlike Hamas - Israel isn’t interested in genocide. Because that is the difference here. Hamas wants to commit genocide. So of course I’m thankful that it’s Israel and not Hamas with the power. Israel is no saint but the alternative is much, much worse.
Phew yeah good thing Israel’s only killed orders of magnitude more Palestinians than Hamas has killed Israelis, up until this one retaliatory event that retroactively justifies all that death and destruction. That’s classic Good Guy behavior. Just mumble the tiniest mote of criticism and pretend the alternative, singular, is an additional order of magnitude.
Palestine is lucky Israel doesn’t want the problem solved, finally.
Uh huh.