• @UnspecificGravity
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    298 months ago

    Hasn’t Israel been killing them since LONG before they took hostages? Why would release them suddenly make it stop?

    • @SCB@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      Prior to early October, Israel was completely out of Gaza, and was not attacking Gaza whatsoever, so no they weren’t killing them long before they took hostages.

      Also the entire siege is about trying to force Hamas to give up hostages. That is literally the reason it is being done. Hamas also has massive food, water, and fuel stockpiles they refuse to share with the people they “govern”

      https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-says-gaza-photos-show-half-million-liters-of-fuel-held-by-hamas/

      Also they’re using that fuel to power the ventilation systems in their tunnels that run on generators

      https://m.jpost.com/israel-news/article-770123

      • @a_random_large_banana
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        38 months ago

        I urge you to get your source not from literally the entity being excused of genocide (or its direct allies e.i. US news outlets). they have enough money to throw so much propaganda at you that you would never believe anything else.

        from one online stranger to another: using and citing sources as such is an instant discredit.

        • @SCB@lemmy.world
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          -48 months ago

          I’m gonna go ahead and keep listening to the people who aren’t literal terrorists.

          • @a_random_large_banana
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            08 months ago

            well then, again, I urge you to change your sources if you don’t want to listen to terrorists

      • @UnspecificGravity
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        18 months ago

        You get that the history of Israeli and Palestinian relations goes back further than October of this year, right?

          • @UnspecificGravity
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            08 months ago

            How many Palestinians did the IDF kill in an average year before October?

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              8 months ago

              I’ll look up any data you want, if you’ll acknowledge that without the Iron Dome, casualty comparisons would be wildly different.

              I have severe issues with some of Israel’s past actions. The invasion of Gaza in the teens was an incredibly poor choice. Hamas has bombed Israel 7,000+ times in the last 2 weeks, Israel just has top tier defenses against rocket attacks

              That doesn’t make what they’re doing now wrong, or give Hamas a leg to stand on.

              I wonder what the US would do if the Mexican government launched 7,000 missiles at us.

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                Why are you still talking about the last two weeks when the entire point of this discussion was about what happened before October? Just say that you only discovered this issue two weeks ago if that is the case, which is getting to be pretty obvious if we are being honest here.

                You want me to acknowledge that more missiles would have hit Israel in the last two weeks if Israel didn’t shoot down those missiles? Yeah, no shit. Do you think that proves a point? Israel has very little to fear from Gaza, we already knew that.

                • @SCB@lemmy.world
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                  18 months ago

                  I think your mind is made up based on bad information, and that 99% of how much you care is for clout, hoenstly

                  • @UnspecificGravity
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                    18 months ago

                    Is it really hard for you to believe that people genuinely don’t think that just randomly murdering thousands of people is bad? That says a lot more about you than it does about me.