All the news headlines and verdict said sexual abuse, which was kind of vague, but I just found out today that the judge clarified that this was a matter of legal definition and by the verdict of the trial and the case, trump has been found guilty of penetrative rape.

    • Flying SquidEnglish
      37•11 months ago

      Which is ridiculous because it’s rape whichever he used.

      • BlanketsWithSmallpoxEnglish
        -6•11 months ago

        Forceable sexual assault? Yes.

        Rape? No.

        Fondling? Yes.

        This using Clery Act standards which colleges use. PDF Warning.

        Otherwise it varies heavily state by state.

        • Flying SquidEnglish
          4•11 months ago

          “Forcible sexual assault” is rape. As the judge agreed.

            • Flying SquidEnglish
              5•11 months ago

              Why exactly should there be a distinction between forcing yourself on a woman and penetrating her with your finger and forcing yourself on a woman and penetrating her with your penis? Is a penis somehow worse than a finger when it comes to forcibly penetrating a woman?

                • Flying SquidEnglish
                  3•11 months ago

                  So rape is based on the possibility of pregnancy? Should the rape of a woman post-menopause be considered as a lesser crime than the rape of a woman who has the capability of getting pregnant? What if it’s during her period?

      • Norgur
        42•11 months ago

        I cannot imagine the ordeal for the victim when a bunch of folks in suits discusses if someone forced his dick inside of you or “just” his fingers…

        • @Varyk@sh.itjust.worksOPEnglish
          5•11 months ago

          Pretty horrifying.

          At least trump was found liable, though. I was thinking of a victim exposing themselves in the courtroom and the countless times a jury finds for the rich douchebag with more lawyers.

          • @Varyk@sh.itjust.worksOPEnglish
            4•11 months ago

            Not a convict because it was a civil case rather than criminal, trump is still a rapist according to a judge and jury.

            I only bring this up so that if you ever get in a debate or someone says he’s not a rapist, they can’t falsely dismiss that trumpi is a rapist on a technicality within your statement.

            Trump is a rapist.

    • MedicsOfAnarchyEnglish
      12•11 months ago

      She didn’t have her contacts in; it could have been his penis or his pinky finger based on size.

        • rurutheguru
          English
          1•11 months ago

          How much does it matter to the victim whether the assaulter’s penis or fingers were forced inside of them if they couldn’t identify which it was? I’m sure she would have preferred neither. You’re just arguing semantics right?