• @hightrix@lemmy.world
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      699 months ago

      I actually like daily standups. I know many don’t, but they can be really useful.

      What did you do yesterday. What are you doing today. Any issues for the group?

      Then get back to work!

      • @cooopsspace@infosec.pub
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        679 months ago

        Daily standups are fine, but they need to be like 10-15 minutes tops. And between 10am-1pm. Putting them at 9am sharp is just rude.

        • @AbidanYre@lemmy.world
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          549 months ago

          A few jobs back the director was having daily standups with the whole dev team for 60-90 minutes and sometimes longer.

          The goal was to figure out why the project was behind schedule… yeah.

          • @cabbagee@sopuli.xyz
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            179 months ago

            What I used to do was make notes at the end of the day. Just a couple short bullet points to say at standup and help me get back on track a little faster the next morning.

          • SeaJ
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            49 months ago

            Ugh. I hate being on the west coast of the US. Most office jobs start at 7 or 8 AM here.

            • @Nyanix@lemmy.ca
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              29 months ago

              God, I hear that…plus I usually need to meet with my coworkers in India, so I’m often needing to start meetings at 6 AM. I am nooooot functional that early

              • SeaJ
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                29 months ago

                I usually had to do that for Europe. Most Indian coworkers I have worked with work a later schedule so there has always been a bit of overlap. Generally the Europeans I have worked with have been German and they generally have a labor rep on the board so they can fight against messed up work schedules.

        • @grue@lemmy.world
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          9 months ago

          Keeping the meeting short was the whole point of them being “standups” (as opposed to “sit-downs”) in the first place!

          Frankly, even 10 minutes is excessive: it means either people are talking too much or your team is too big.

          I’m fucking sick and tired of cargo-cult managers adopting the trappings of agile without understanding WTF they’re for.

          • @griD@feddit.de
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            29 months ago

            Ha! Yes.
            For the first time, we are trying out a full scrum team in our company, with an external “scrum master” who really seems to know what he’s doing. It’s bloody amazing. Small team, the daily meeting has yet to exceed 10 minutes and is usually <5 minutes, the planning and refinement meeting keeps everyone in the loop. The rest of the time I can just be a happy code monkey :)

      • NaibofTabr
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        179 months ago

        This would be a massive waste of time if it were with the whole team every day. I don’t need to know what every other employee on the team is doing every single day, and I don’t need to spend time listening to them explain it. I’ve got shit to do.

        • @Taleya@aussie.zone
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          119 months ago

          My husband holds his team meetings at 3/4pm ish on friday on zoom with beers. Afterwards he tells everyone to fuck off home.

          THAT is how you do it. It turns into a pile of geeks talking geek and part post-mortem, part decompressing from the week and they’ve actually had some absolutely mint ideas rising out of deformalising the dev pileup.

            • @Taleya@aussie.zone
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              29 months ago

              nah yeah, mate. You spend the arse end of your friday workday drinking beer and talking shit in an informal setting and then fuck off early

              • BoofStroke
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                09 months ago

                I’d rather be doing that on my own time, or something more productive with friends, thanks.

        • @Haywire@lemm.ee
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          We used to have a rigorous schedule. Arrive at the office between 8-830. Make coffee and chat. At 9am we started the daily meeting. We all read what we were going to do today to each other. By then it was 1130 and so we broke for lunch. After lunch, at 1300 we would do the thing we said we would do. At 1530-1630 we would submit out updates to the project management system and produce tomorrow’s report for us to read to each other. 1700 we would go to the bar then head home around 1830.

          When I started working for myself I would usually start around 9 to finish at noon, including travel time.

        • @hightrix@lemmy.world
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          29 months ago

          I agree with you. That’s why we make our teams small enough in size that standups are 10min max, usually more like 5.

          That said, it can be really beneficial to hear that Joe is working on something similar to a thing I’m going to start today. He may be able to give me some lessons learned or point me to a library.

          But I completely agree that big teams a make this an annoyance. I used to be on a 20 person team and standups were completely worthless.

          Now, we have 3-5 devs per team and it’s usually really quick.

      • @merc@sh.itjust.works
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        29 months ago

        Do you mean standups where you are actually standing up? Many places I’ve worked have called a daily meeting a “stand-up” but it has been an hour-long sit-down meeting.

        Then there are the actual “stand-ups” where the tall guys tower over the group, and the shorter people (typically women) are either talking into the chests of those guys, or they’re craning their necks up at painful angles.