• @Eheran@lemmy.world
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    -959 months ago

    If they actually want to commit genocide, why are they telling the population to leave the dangerous areas, perform roof knocking, etc.?

    • @FluffyPotato@lemm.ee
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      639 months ago

      They told like half of Gaza to clear out in 24 hours, that’s well over a million people, it’s literally impossible to accomplish that. It’s to get deniability when killing civilians.

      • @rdri@lemmy.world
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        -319 months ago

        So Israel wants to kill civilians in Gaza? How ludicrous! They must have been doing exactly that for all these years, every single day! I wonder what happened right now that their drive to kill civilians peaked so much! Palestinians are totally innocent and don’t want to kill civilians in Israel though, right? This never happened, or did I miss anything?

        • @Hadriscus@lemm.ee
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          129 months ago

          Of course they don’t. I think you’re mistaking Hamas for the general palestinian population

        • @Steve0Greatness@lemmy.world
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          79 months ago

          This is the exact mindset that led to the Internment of Japanese Americans, or the frequent racism against Muslims for years after 9-11(and still going on to this day). People from a place do no represent the place they’re from, and a group of terrorists do not represent millions of people.

    • @TokenBoomer@lemmy.world
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      239 months ago

      Well, you generally don’t declare to the world you’re doing genocide. You ask for forgiveness, not permission.

      • @Eheran@lemmy.world
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        -209 months ago

        That was not what I was asking. They avoid killing them quite a bit, given the circumstances. Why would they do that if their goal was genocide?

        • @SkyezOpen@lemmy.world
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          199 months ago

          Look up what plausible deniability is. The goal is genocide, but they can’t just do genocide without pissing off the world. So they basically imprison 2.2 million people in a space the size of Seattle, destroy entire buildings, shoot unarmed people in Palestinian territory, bulldoze Palestinian homes or outright take them and give them to Israeli settlers. This naturally pisses people off. Hamas fires rockets in response. Israel blows even more shit up in response. They perpetuate the cycle put into motion when the UK stole Palestinian land and gave it to Israel.

          • @Eheran@lemmy.world
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            -139 months ago

            Let’s not get the sequence of events wrong. Israel faced existential threads from day one of declaring independence, where the surrounding states immediately attacked. There was and is no compromise for Palestine, they want to destroy Israel. That is their official goal, not some secret or conspiracy.

            Palestine is not a prison because they are super nice people and Israel is evil. The issue is terrorism. Israel needs to deal with it some way. You can argue that there are better ways, certainly. And that Israel is doing a crap job, like US prisons.

            What is Israel supposed to do now? What would your plan be? More than one out of every 10’000 of your fellow people just got murdered. That’s like 46’000 people if it were the USA. That is the scale.

            If we look at history, for example Nazis, do you think it was right to bomb Germany to the ground?

        • @TokenBoomer@lemmy.world
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          -19 months ago

          Well, you generally don’t declare to the world you’re doing genocide. You ask for forgiveness, not permission.

    • @Hadriscus@lemm.ee
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      109 months ago

      They told people to gather in the city center, and then they bombed the city center

    • @Steve0Greatness@lemmy.world
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      9 months ago

      Telling people to leave when there is nowhere to go, Egypt is refusing to open their border and I doubt Israel is going to open theirs, isn’t not wanting to commit genocide: it’s a way to save face, to say “well they didn’t evacuate so it’s their problem.”