• @deft@ttrpg.network
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        Lol what does that change? She’s advocating for the people of Palestine? Then this event happens and she says don’t celebrate the murder of people. Her position is clear and makes sense, less violence more helping people.

        This shit makes complete sense. How are any of you confusing this?

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      Virtue signaling.

      If you don’t support the only existing material force fighting for Palestinians, you don’t support Palestinian rights. We can’t idealistically pray for some magic solution to Israeli occupation. We have to live in the material world, where resistance are messy and people are imperfect.

      So, much like her socialism, these words are all an act to sheepdog radicals into the Democratic Party. That’s her job.

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          Without violence, Israel’s genocide would march forward unimpeded. Is that what you want? Do you want every Palestinian dead?

          Violence is their only choice. That’s sad and terrible, but we shouldn’t condemn resistance fighters for fighting back against occupation and settlement the only way they can.

          I bet you support Ukraine. What’s the difference between Russia seizing Crimea and the Donbass, and Israel seizing more and more land over the past 70 years? Do an occupied people not have a right to defend themselves?

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            Nice bullshit scenario.

            “One side has to kill the other there is no alternative, nothing else can be done” - you, a moron.

            She’s advocating for less violence. Period fullstop and she always does. Makes sense.

            Palestinians responding with violence makes sense.

            I do support Ukraine but Ukraine did not invade a Russian place and attack citizens and innocents and defenseless people. So these are not the same.

            This whole situation is fucked but you’re not gonna play this fucking game and pull it apart in one side or the other, you qre the problem. I support the innocent people. Fuck Israel’s current regime, fuck people who shoot other people. Fuck rapists.

            What the fuck are you actually talking about honestly?

            • queermunist she/her
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              09 months ago

              “One side has to kill the other there is no alternative, nothing else can be done” - you, a moron.

              Israel could end it’s occupation any time it wants.

              Palestine has no choice. What the fuck else can they do?

              I do support Ukraine but Ukraine did not invade a Russian place and attack citizens and innocents and defenseless people. So these are not the same.

              The conflict didn’t start just a few days ago! The occupation has been ongoing for decades! Settlers are invaders, Israel invaded first and this is retaliation.

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                Israel could end it’s occupation any time it wants.

                Agreed.

                Palestine has no choice. What the fuck else can they do?

                I don’t know but this isn’t it. What happened here was foreign intervention pushing for aggression and Hamas using the pain of widows and orphans to fuel violence.

                They don’t win this way though. This is not the solution this was a bad idea.

                • queermunist she/her
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                  I don’t know

                  Then shut up maybe?

                  Sorry. It’s just, this is the only choice. They don’t know what else to do either. There is no other recourse. Death now or death later.

                  They don’t win this way though. This is not the solution this was a bad idea.

                  This I agree with. I think this ends in genocide.

                  Thing is? The only choices were to die on their feet or on their knees. They chose the human option. It’s terrible, but I can’t condemn them.

                  Spitting in your captor’s eye and getting killed for it is only human, no matter how much Israel calls them animals.