• loathsome dongeater
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    861 year ago

    It’s not an eye for an eye though. Israeli atrocities over the decades dwarf what has been inflicted upon them by Palestine and Hamas.

    • It’s not an eye-for-an-eye because we shouldn’t consider targetting civilians an option. If you want to call militias that target civilians terrorists, be consistent regardless of what uniform they are wearing.

      • EtherealMoon
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        01 year ago

        This is the only take that actually matters. If Ukraine responded to Russia by bombing villages and shooting civilians, they would not have such near-worldwide support. If Israel wants to truly be better than “savages” then they need to act like it.

        • @entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org
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          121 year ago

          Why is it political taboo to call them both monsters, and advocate for not supporting either until they can sort out the differences themselves?

          Because there’s an obvious power imbalance and not picking a side just favors the already powerful?

          • @SheeEttin@lemmy.world
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            91 year ago

            Yeah. If we say “let them fight it out” then Israel is going to roll in and kill all the Palestinians.

            • @Johnny5@lemm.ee
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              21 year ago

              Followed closely by war with Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Jordan and Iran. Escalation is bad for everyone.

      • @wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one
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        1 year ago

        Do we get to go back far enough to the part where israel admitted to funding hamas in 2019?

        You guys know this isnt a conspiracy, right? Israeli politicians flat out said this in interviews?

          • Hamas knew what would happen, they wanted israel to declare war. They got exactly what they want.

            So did israel. They wanted hamas to attack so badly, they ignored shared intel that the attack was coming a week in advance. Israel also wanted an excuse to declare war.

            Israel wants to use the war as an excuse to kill non hamas palestinians. Thats why they bombed the refugee route to egypt that they explicitly told civilians to follow.

            Hamas knows israel wants this, and hopes it will radicalize the survivors and bolster their ranks. They think it will be good recruitment.

            What did I expect? I expected israel to jump at the chance to finish off its genocide. Youre a self proclaimed subjugated native, you also should have seen this coming.

            What I dont get is why you are cheering on genocide. You are watching your peoples history on repeat. And up and down, you are cheering for them to die.

      • @chaorace@lemmy.sdf.org
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        51 year ago

        Welcome to the human condition. Justice isn’t real, but that doesn’t mean we can abandon it. It’s impossible to undo the damage of the past, but if you turn a blind eye to it then nobody will follow you into the future.

      • FaceDeer
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        21 year ago

        In this case you don’t need to go back “in history.”

      • loathsome dongeater
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        71 year ago

        Would be better to discuss this in terms grounded in reality rather than papering over idioms with clever gotchas.