Our country is a community. To some capacity, every single one of us gives up a level of freedom to be a part of that community and help it prosper.
Positioning and simplifying “parental rights” as “what I say vs what the government says” is exactly the problem. It’s not about you versus the government. If this was actually a matter of parental rights, and not another thinly veiled “fuck Trudeau”, alt-right, anti-human rights conspiracy, this would be about your freedom to instill values that are important to you, your family and your community in your children first abd foremost, even when “simplified”. Being decidedly anti-government would be so far down the list that it should never make the short-hand version.
You do not have a right to teach your children to hate others, and fear expressing themselves, and fuck you for ever suggesting you should.
Well, lets say the government says genociding the native population is okay, like Canada used to. Parental rights would allow you to homeschool your kids.
Well, what are you trying to say? We all know what the definition of parental rights would be in a vacuum, I think the point of contention here is what could possibly be missing in actual Canadian society.
Well then ask that then. I swear you fucks can’t speak English properly.
For the answer you wanted but failed to ask for the first time is the government is keeping secrets from parents, and normalizing it. The parents have a right to know what the government knows about their kids. (Extreme circumustances notwithstanding, Im not getting into pedantics)
What right do you like to imagine you have over another human being? Choosing to believe you own a person just because you spit them out is some pretty dark shit.
If your kid doesn’t want to talk to you about their friends, their identity, or their inner life, that’s really on you. You have no right to force them, and if you feel you have to, that just means you’re a shitty person and a bad parent.
Better than the government owning them and keeping secrets from the parents. If one parent is bad, thats one family thats fucked. If the goverenment goes bad, say teaches that clubbing seals is okay, then all the kids are in a bad spot.
That commenter doesn’t live in Canada. I recall the username from a post about the 2022 convoy where they weren’t aware they shut down part of Ottawa for weeks.
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What exactly are ‘parental rights’?
Simplified, the rights of the parents vs the government.
Our country is a community. To some capacity, every single one of us gives up a level of freedom to be a part of that community and help it prosper.
Positioning and simplifying “parental rights” as “what I say vs what the government says” is exactly the problem. It’s not about you versus the government. If this was actually a matter of parental rights, and not another thinly veiled “fuck Trudeau”, alt-right, anti-human rights conspiracy, this would be about your freedom to instill values that are important to you, your family and your community in your children first abd foremost, even when “simplified”. Being decidedly anti-government would be so far down the list that it should never make the short-hand version.
You do not have a right to teach your children to hate others, and fear expressing themselves, and fuck you for ever suggesting you should.
So, could you define them better? Still a little fuzy on the details.
Well, lets say the government says genociding the native population is okay, like Canada used to. Parental rights would allow you to homeschool your kids.
You can already homeschool your kids, and teach them whatever garbage you want, and many people do.
Yes, I didn’t say otherwise.
Well, what are you trying to say? We all know what the definition of parental rights would be in a vacuum, I think the point of contention here is what could possibly be missing in actual Canadian society.
Well then ask that then. I swear you fucks can’t speak English properly.
For the answer you wanted but failed to ask for the first time is the government is keeping secrets from parents, and normalizing it. The parents have a right to know what the government knows about their kids. (Extreme circumustances notwithstanding, Im not getting into pedantics)
You’re already allowed to homeschool your kids in Canada, but in your case it would probably disadvantage them.
And honestly that is a fucking dogwhistle of a reason if I ever saw one.
Anything else easily disproven?
He provided a relatable example, not something that is in contention. There was nothing to disprove.
Why do you find reading to be so hard?
You didn’t disprove jackshit, it was an example of parental rights.
Okay - what rights?
What right do you like to imagine you have over another human being? Choosing to believe you own a person just because you spit them out is some pretty dark shit.
If your kid doesn’t want to talk to you about their friends, their identity, or their inner life, that’s really on you. You have no right to force them, and if you feel you have to, that just means you’re a shitty person and a bad parent.
Better than the government owning them and keeping secrets from the parents. If one parent is bad, thats one family thats fucked. If the goverenment goes bad, say teaches that clubbing seals is okay, then all the kids are in a bad spot.
Thank you for being so transparent about the fact that your position rests on children being property that are inevitably owned.
Anyone reading this thread can see which side of this issue is the one that cares about fundamental human rights.
Why should children be “owned”?
Rights to what?
Knowing what your kid is up to and tells other people. You can’t parent properly if you don’t even know what pronouns your kid wants to use.
What does “parenting” mean to you? Because if you were doing it properly, they’d tell you.
Children need rights from their parents, when a child is being abused 9 times out of 10 its the parents.
Feel free to not live in this shithole 😁
That commenter doesn’t live in Canada. I recall the username from a post about the 2022 convoy where they weren’t aware they shut down part of Ottawa for weeks.
And what state do you live in? Please, tell us about the utopia of Alabama or wherever you’re posting from.