• @Steeve@lemmy.ca
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    11 year ago

    What are you arguing about exactly? Not a single comment in this chain is anti union at all, and the comment you replied to even argued for unionization where it will have the greatest benefit, i.e. all the jobs you just mentioned.

    Why are you acting like this is some sort of prisoner’s dilemma where either everyone unionizes or no one does?

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          1 year ago

          And I never said anyone was. That’s something you came up with.

          All I wanted to do is remind people is that capital giving a fuck about your ass doesn’t mean that said capital is benevolent, or you shouldn’t organise, because it’s still going to fuck anyone over it can get away with fucking over. Like the cleaning staff.

          • @Steeve@lemmy.ca
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            11 year ago

            The decision for tech to unionize has nothing to do with how the cleaning staff is treated

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              1 year ago

              How can you force the bosses to pay cleaning staff properly if the engineers aren’t striking for them? There’s a gazillion desperate scabs out there and I can’t even blame them, how can you blame someone with two jobs for wanting a third to pay rent.

              …that, btw, is why the likes of the IWW organise companies and industries, and not trades.

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                  11 year ago

                  Not without class consciousness, no. But yes that is how it often works in countries that aren’t the US. Occasionally, it also works in the US, e.g. the Hollywood strikes right now. Was it the writers I think who got a proper offer right now and they said they’re going to continue until others got theirs, too.

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                    11 year ago

                    Not how the writers strike went either, it’s ending and has nothing to do with the other IATSE contracts.