A state spokesperson says a man brought a handgun into the Wisconsin Capitol and demanded to see Gov. Tony Evers and returned at night with an assault rifle.
Maybe, just Maybe if one of these fucking right wing nuts take out a politician then watch real quick we will get new gun laws. Long as they shooting up schools, and churches and hurting us common folk nothing will change.
Maybe not 100% of the time but at least 80-90% of the time it’s always the police, or DA failing to do their job properly. If you’re pending a felony trial you cannot own/buy guns until you’re proven innocent, and they should be confiscated. I cannot imagine how this man would not be chargeable.
Similar goes for many shootings, they plea down to a lesser charge or the cops just don’t do their job and let go obvious crimes.
Can’t keep your position as a sheriff or DA who are always “tough on crime”. When you start holding right wing gun owners to the law they get upset and won’t vote for you. They’re the ones most punishment-happy
and also simultaneously hold themselves above the law, as events over the last several years should obviously indicate.
As you can see, the defendant, a biological MAN in a dress, was carrying a pistol in HIS purse when HE tried to invade a women’s bathroom to express HIS sick gender delusion. I ask the fine Texans of this jury, would you let this sick MAN rape your daughters at gunpoint?
I’m not making a sophistical argument, they already do this. It’s just that they currently focus more on codewords like “thug” to make sure a black man who had three joints in his house can never vote again. If you want gun control, arm every LGBT person in the country and Republicans will ban everything more advanced than a rubber band shooter the very next day, just like how the first sweeping gun control legislation was instituted by then-Governor Reagan to keep the Black Panthers down.
Texas takes (usually black) people’s guns away all the time, they’re not even close to having the most permissive gun laws in the country. As with all things Republicans do, Texan gun culture is massively hypocritical to fulfill a racist double standard.
I’m not making a sophistical argument, they already do this.
Sadly you’re 100% correct. They cling to the bathroom panic even though their arguments have basically no basis whatsoever in reality. Even the “Family Research Council”, a religious right-wing think-tank, was only able to find 23 cases of “bathroom incidents” over the span of 18 years - most of which involved cis men, not trans women or even crossdressers, and two cases of discrimination against trans women who were just using the bathroom. Plus in one case a conservative man entered the women’s changing room when KIDS were changing to “make a point” about a nondiscrimination law that was recently passed. Everything these creeps claim the left is doing is always just projection.
Meanwhile states that discriminate against trans students have the same rate of sexual assault as other states, and trans teens are much more likely to be victims of assault, especially when they’re denied access to facilities that match their identity:
Which is why when you pull back the layers, most efforts to curb gun ownership ultimately leads to full confiscation and bans. Restrictions won’t do what they want.
That’s not true. Banning felons from having guns allows the police to arrest them before a new crime is committed, because they are breaking the gun possession law. They don’t have to wait until the eventual robbery or whatever is in progress.
It also adds another crime to tack on after the fact to get a confession more easily. It’s easier to prove that a felon possessed a gun than to examine their intent in a minor robbery (robbery vs assault vs attempted murder).
Felons are already prohibited from firearm posession… and have been for quite some time. Violent offenders are regularly released back into the streets. Not sure what your point is.
The trouble with that is you cannot be deprived of rights without due process. You cannot be guilty of committing a crime with a gun without having gone to trial or plead out. It would be highly unlikely to get some law pushed through that survives both NRA opposition/propaganda and the inevitable SCOTUS case.
Bail could be used if they still pose a risk, but that’s not entirely the point of bail and would also see heavy opposition.
Due process doesn’t mean found guilty in a court of law. If that’s what it meant then nobody could be held in jail or in police custody even before their trial. If you are booked for a felony, especially one involving a gun, I believe it’s perfectly reasonable to have your guns taken temporarily or permanently if you’re found guilty of a felony offense.
Why do we allow so many terrorists to own guns?
If you use a gun to commit a crime, you should lose the right to own guns forever.
Maybe, just Maybe if one of these fucking right wing nuts take out a politician then watch real quick we will get new gun laws. Long as they shooting up schools, and churches and hurting us common folk nothing will change.
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If a Republican politician were taken out, it would be open season on Democrats.
Only if it’s a Republican politician that is not considered a “RINO”.
I mean shit, James Hodgkinson got pretty close.
Maybe not 100% of the time but at least 80-90% of the time it’s always the police, or DA failing to do their job properly. If you’re pending a felony trial you cannot own/buy guns until you’re proven innocent, and they should be confiscated. I cannot imagine how this man would not be chargeable.
Similar goes for many shootings, they plea down to a lesser charge or the cops just don’t do their job and let go obvious crimes.
Can’t keep your position as a sheriff or DA who are always “tough on crime”. When you start holding right wing gun owners to the law they get upset and won’t vote for you. They’re the ones most punishment-happy and also simultaneously hold themselves above the law, as events over the last several years should obviously indicate.
Which will promptly turn in to
I’m not making a sophistical argument, they already do this. It’s just that they currently focus more on codewords like “thug” to make sure a black man who had three joints in his house can never vote again. If you want gun control, arm every LGBT person in the country and Republicans will ban everything more advanced than a rubber band shooter the very next day, just like how the first sweeping gun control legislation was instituted by then-Governor Reagan to keep the Black Panthers down.
Texas will legalize biracial transgender lesbian atheists before Texas starts actually taking people’s guns away.
Texas takes (usually black) people’s guns away all the time, they’re not even close to having the most permissive gun laws in the country. As with all things Republicans do, Texan gun culture is massively hypocritical to fulfill a racist double standard.
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Yes, data on felony convictions is available to the public.
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Sadly you’re 100% correct. They cling to the bathroom panic even though their arguments have basically no basis whatsoever in reality. Even the “Family Research Council”, a religious right-wing think-tank, was only able to find 23 cases of “bathroom incidents” over the span of 18 years - most of which involved cis men, not trans women or even crossdressers, and two cases of discrimination against trans women who were just using the bathroom. Plus in one case a conservative man entered the women’s changing room when KIDS were changing to “make a point” about a nondiscrimination law that was recently passed. Everything these creeps claim the left is doing is always just projection.
Meanwhile states that discriminate against trans students have the same rate of sexual assault as other states, and trans teens are much more likely to be victims of assault, especially when they’re denied access to facilities that match their identity:
Gun lobby: "$500 is $500“
Kind of self-explanatory. People who are willing to commit crime with guns also don’t care if law forbids them owning one.
Which is why when you pull back the layers, most efforts to curb gun ownership ultimately leads to full confiscation and bans. Restrictions won’t do what they want.
That’s not true. Banning felons from having guns allows the police to arrest them before a new crime is committed, because they are breaking the gun possession law. They don’t have to wait until the eventual robbery or whatever is in progress.
It also adds another crime to tack on after the fact to get a confession more easily. It’s easier to prove that a felon possessed a gun than to examine their intent in a minor robbery (robbery vs assault vs attempted murder).
Felons are already prohibited from firearm posession… and have been for quite some time. Violent offenders are regularly released back into the streets. Not sure what your point is.
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I provided some examples of how that gun restriction helps prosecute repeat offenders.
Should not even be a right to begin with.
The trouble with that is you cannot be deprived of rights without due process. You cannot be guilty of committing a crime with a gun without having gone to trial or plead out. It would be highly unlikely to get some law pushed through that survives both NRA opposition/propaganda and the inevitable SCOTUS case.
Bail could be used if they still pose a risk, but that’s not entirely the point of bail and would also see heavy opposition.
Due process doesn’t mean found guilty in a court of law. If that’s what it meant then nobody could be held in jail or in police custody even before their trial. If you are booked for a felony, especially one involving a gun, I believe it’s perfectly reasonable to have your guns taken temporarily or permanently if you’re found guilty of a felony offense.
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Only works if a) you are convicted and b) it’s a felony charge.
c) anyone bothers to check
Repeal 2A with exceptions for people who actually live in the wilderness or can prove they have a need to own one for their livelihood