• @dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world
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    169 months ago

    ^ This is the winner, right here. The crux, as it were.

    Modern society always ultimately boils down, eventually, to might makes right… just with some extra steps.

    • @RubberElectrons@lemmy.world
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      9 months ago

      I agree with you. That said, as humans, we’re not yet evolved past defending territory we’ve chosen to live on. I think we still need “might” as an option for response, until we as a creator evolve further.

      I don’t know if it’s possible to get rid of the final might destination on the continuum of responses to issues, but I think we can agree that the “extra steps” part between “an annoyance” and “possible danger to individuals and society” is extremely lacking and narrow.

      I strongly, strongly dislike what the police have become, and evolved from, in the united States. Someone does need to investigate crime and murder though, and not just a few amateur podcasters. With some careful thought, and likely messy experimentation, we can handle laws being just, fair and useful. How? That seems to be the tricky part.

      • @RedAggroBest@lemmy.world
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        9 months ago

        “Warfare is of vital importance to the state, it is a matter of life and death.” -Sun Tzu.

        A hundreds of years old warlord recognized this, it’s a thought independent of economics. As long as there’s more than one nation-state on this planet, might is always the end result, including defense from an aggressor.

        The idea of inherent violence solely being a capitalist trait doesn’t tell the whole truth because the need for might exists as long as there’s power dynamic, which exists as long as there is govt.

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          9 months ago

          You think it’s the govt that creates the power imbalances that results in violence? This is laughable… government is a result of violence that creates the power imbalance. Your point was reasonable until you conflated the two at the end.

      • @unfreeradical@lemmy.world
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        19 months ago

        I don’t know if it’s possible to get rid of the final might destination on the continuum of responses to issues

        Perhaps the issues themselves are not inevitable.