thanks for providing the link! lemmy modlog can be hard to navigate sometimes so i understand it might take a while to chase the other post down.
you went into a thread in !thepoliceproblem about an innocent bystander getting killed due to cops actions and defended the police. here’s the other person’s entire reply, for posterity:
cw: descriptions of death
You’re a bootlicking asshole who worships cops. Your idea of justice is catch the “criminal” and damn anyone that gets in the way. Fuck you man. I hope you become some of that collateral damage one day. I hope your family gets to miss you because you were in the wrong place at the wrong time as some careless pig chased a stolen car straight into your driver’s side door.
I do not hope that you die.
after reading your responses in that thread i do think that person is right about everything else though. you go out of your way to defend the criminal justice system and the carceral state in the context of a discussion about how it’s endangering bystanders in a space that is explicitly about the problems with the carceral state, the criminal justice system and militant policing.
you’re the problem in that thread, not someone mouthing off because you didn’t read the room.
the room, by the way, has “If you’re here to support the police, you’re trolling. Please exercise your right to remain silent.” as rule number two right there in the sidebar, so there’s really no excuse for acting the way you did and then snapping back at the person who politely pointed that out to you later in that thread.
This all seems like excuses to justify someone wishing death upon another person. Btw, this showed up on the frontpage, and I’m not going to read the novel of rules for every single subreddit (or whatever the lemmy equivalent is) I participate in. Although they do have the right to ban me (which they did and I’m not complaining).
tl;dr wishing death upon other commenters is fine as long as they are posting something that is disagreeable
① Real-life decorum is expected. Please don’t say things only a child or a jackass would say in person.
② If you’re here to support the police, you’re trolling. Please exercise your right to remain silent.
③ Saying cops should be killed lowers the IQ in any conversation. They’re about killing people; we’re not.
Please also abide by the instance rules.
That’s for anyone reading along, I believe you when you say you’re not gonna read them.
I don’t wish death on you.
You seem like a heartless and knowingly thoughtless person who feels entitled to be heard but not to listen or abide by norms, complaining of the wounds others have put upon you but silent about your own transgressions.
My sympathy lies with the embattled users afflicted by your awful posts rather than you, cursed to know that people who interact with you hate you.
I don’t think that’s all there is to you. If you want to be seen in a more charitable light, maybe read all those rules before you post, take some time to consider the place, time and context of what you’re reading and of course, remember the person on the other side of the keyboard.
You can also use a platform that accepts your behavior. Reddit and twitter aren’t closed to new users.
I’m not complaining about people disagreeing with me, I’m complaining about people wishing death upon me. And to be honest, I don’t really care, but I think the fact that people are willing to stoop that low over simple differences in opinion is demonstrative of the quality of person I’m dealing with. I’m just a dude who has some opinions that would only be controversial on a place as terminally online as Lemmy, who are often completely consumed by the culture war nonsense who believe any criticism of your own side means you are supporting the other.
You seem like a heartless and knowingly thoughtless person who feels entitled to be heard but not to listen or abide by norms, complaining of the wounds others have put upon you but silent about your own transgressions.
Get a grip on yourself. This line is hilarious when you consider the context of a disagreement in a comment section.
It’s worth restating that you gave your pro cop opinion over and over again in a thread about a tragic bystander death caused by cops made in a community for discussing problems and effects of the carceral state that had explicit rules against acting the way you did.
You’re a lot closer to westboro baptist protesting funerals than some high minded equal exchange in the free market of ideas.
I don’t hope you die, but I do hope you learn to post better.
My opinion was “no I don’t think we should let criminals get away because of a freak accident”. It’s not that serious, I saw a post on my frontpage and I commented on it. boo fucking hoo, you’re pretending like my relatively milquetoast opinion is some moral failing.
A wreck in a high speed chase isn’t a freak accident. It happens all the time. High speed pursuits are dangerous. The police know it, that’s why cops have helicopters and drones to avoid getting in them.
Further, we’re not talking hypothetically. Cops chased a stolen car into a bystander in the attempt to do just what you’re suggesting. An innocent person died so they could catch the criminal.
For what? Retribution? To recover the car? Were either of those worth that woman’s life? I don’t think so and i can’t imagine anyone who would!
The very thing you espoused, the cops not letting the person escape even though they knew it was dangerous to everyone around, led to the loss of innocent life! It would have been better if they had never given chase and the car was lost forever!
Unless of course a person getting punished for theft and a car being recovered is worth a life.
So you can crawl down off the cross, your opinion isn’t milquetoast and it’s hard to imagine a world where holding it in this day and age isn’t a moral failing.
Can you imagine what would happen if the criteria for getting away from a cop after a crime is just “drive fast for a little bit”? Can you imagine the chaos then? The issue is that there’s no distinct line between chasing a criminal and becoming a high speed chase. Are cop cars not allowed to pursue fleeing criminals at all? Just if they’re all going the speed limit? But the moment they go over the cops have to bail? Sure, maybe they should lean into drone technology more, but I really dislike the idea of letting criminals get away, as it will simply inspire more criminal. I believe the amount of carjackings would skyrocket if getting away was as easy as driving fast.
You can disagree with me all you want but there’s a lot more to this topic and there’s a reason why cops chase down criminals in nearly every country.
No, they commented on an article about an innocent bystander being killed by a criminal fleeing the law. And I certainly don’t support people forming a rabid circle jerk and banning anyone who disagrees with them, regardless of the topic.
Both you, and the person you’re agreeing with, need to re-think your lives a bit, because neither of you seem to be able to cope with someone disagreeing with you in a civilised manner.
thanks for providing the link! lemmy modlog can be hard to navigate sometimes so i understand it might take a while to chase the other post down.
you went into a thread in !thepoliceproblem about an innocent bystander getting killed due to cops actions and defended the police. here’s the other person’s entire reply, for posterity:
cw: descriptions of death
You’re a bootlicking asshole who worships cops. Your idea of justice is catch the “criminal” and damn anyone that gets in the way. Fuck you man. I hope you become some of that collateral damage one day. I hope your family gets to miss you because you were in the wrong place at the wrong time as some careless pig chased a stolen car straight into your driver’s side door.
I do not hope that you die.
after reading your responses in that thread i do think that person is right about everything else though. you go out of your way to defend the criminal justice system and the carceral state in the context of a discussion about how it’s endangering bystanders in a space that is explicitly about the problems with the carceral state, the criminal justice system and militant policing.
you’re the problem in that thread, not someone mouthing off because you didn’t read the room.
the room, by the way, has “If you’re here to support the police, you’re trolling. Please exercise your right to remain silent.” as rule number two right there in the sidebar, so there’s really no excuse for acting the way you did and then snapping back at the person who politely pointed that out to you later in that thread.
look forward to seeing the other post.
This all seems like excuses to justify someone wishing death upon another person. Btw, this showed up on the frontpage, and I’m not going to read the novel of rules for every single subreddit (or whatever the lemmy equivalent is) I participate in. Although they do have the right to ban me (which they did and I’m not complaining).
tl;dr wishing death upon other commenters is fine as long as they are posting something that is disagreeable
Here’s that novel of rules:
That’s for anyone reading along, I believe you when you say you’re not gonna read them.
I don’t wish death on you.
You seem like a heartless and knowingly thoughtless person who feels entitled to be heard but not to listen or abide by norms, complaining of the wounds others have put upon you but silent about your own transgressions.
My sympathy lies with the embattled users afflicted by your awful posts rather than you, cursed to know that people who interact with you hate you.
I don’t think that’s all there is to you. If you want to be seen in a more charitable light, maybe read all those rules before you post, take some time to consider the place, time and context of what you’re reading and of course, remember the person on the other side of the keyboard.
You can also use a platform that accepts your behavior. Reddit and twitter aren’t closed to new users.
I’m not complaining about people disagreeing with me, I’m complaining about people wishing death upon me. And to be honest, I don’t really care, but I think the fact that people are willing to stoop that low over simple differences in opinion is demonstrative of the quality of person I’m dealing with. I’m just a dude who has some opinions that would only be controversial on a place as terminally online as Lemmy, who are often completely consumed by the culture war nonsense who believe any criticism of your own side means you are supporting the other.
Get a grip on yourself. This line is hilarious when you consider the context of a disagreement in a comment section.
It’s worth restating that you gave your pro cop opinion over and over again in a thread about a tragic bystander death caused by cops made in a community for discussing problems and effects of the carceral state that had explicit rules against acting the way you did.
You’re a lot closer to westboro baptist protesting funerals than some high minded equal exchange in the free market of ideas.
I don’t hope you die, but I do hope you learn to post better.
My opinion was “no I don’t think we should let criminals get away because of a freak accident”. It’s not that serious, I saw a post on my frontpage and I commented on it. boo fucking hoo, you’re pretending like my relatively milquetoast opinion is some moral failing.
A wreck in a high speed chase isn’t a freak accident. It happens all the time. High speed pursuits are dangerous. The police know it, that’s why cops have helicopters and drones to avoid getting in them.
Further, we’re not talking hypothetically. Cops chased a stolen car into a bystander in the attempt to do just what you’re suggesting. An innocent person died so they could catch the criminal.
For what? Retribution? To recover the car? Were either of those worth that woman’s life? I don’t think so and i can’t imagine anyone who would!
The very thing you espoused, the cops not letting the person escape even though they knew it was dangerous to everyone around, led to the loss of innocent life! It would have been better if they had never given chase and the car was lost forever!
Unless of course a person getting punished for theft and a car being recovered is worth a life.
So you can crawl down off the cross, your opinion isn’t milquetoast and it’s hard to imagine a world where holding it in this day and age isn’t a moral failing.
Can you imagine what would happen if the criteria for getting away from a cop after a crime is just “drive fast for a little bit”? Can you imagine the chaos then? The issue is that there’s no distinct line between chasing a criminal and becoming a high speed chase. Are cop cars not allowed to pursue fleeing criminals at all? Just if they’re all going the speed limit? But the moment they go over the cops have to bail? Sure, maybe they should lean into drone technology more, but I really dislike the idea of letting criminals get away, as it will simply inspire more criminal. I believe the amount of carjackings would skyrocket if getting away was as easy as driving fast.
You can disagree with me all you want but there’s a lot more to this topic and there’s a reason why cops chase down criminals in nearly every country.
Dude, you are utterly deranged.
I never would have guessed disagreeing is actually worse than wishing death on someone for disagreeing, thank you for the lesson in ethics
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No, they commented on an article about an innocent bystander being killed by a criminal fleeing the law. And I certainly don’t support people forming a rabid circle jerk and banning anyone who disagrees with them, regardless of the topic.
Both you, and the person you’re agreeing with, need to re-think your lives a bit, because neither of you seem to be able to cope with someone disagreeing with you in a civilised manner.