That’s an unhelpful statement, to say the least. If it’s just as necessary to dig ditches as conduct scientific research, then the diggers would be paid at least enough to sustain themselves. But on top of that, scientists aren’t exactly well compensated, either.
Honestly, I’m surprised that anyone would regurgitate that “life is hard” rhetoric anymore. I understand why Sunak would want people to think that’s the only reason this shit is happening, but if you’re not in the ruling class and have a vested interest in maintaining your privilege, why would you say that?
He’s probably a programmer or something. They’re a sector of workers who still have some bargaining power and ok wages. So when their credulous minds are absolutely flooded with that special brand of libright individualism we all get hosed with daily, there is nothing in their personal experience to tell them it is wrong
Ex software engineer myself, retired do to disability several years ago.
To be honest. It was a field with higher left of center views then most. In my 30 year career. I only knew a few right wing programmers. Most were more left then myself. (Blair was a tory stooge to let you know where I stand)
Ah, when i say" libright individualistic flooding" i mean the absolute torrent of propaganda we’re hit with by media in general, not speaking to the political leanings of the programmers.
That whole “work harder, rise above the group, get ahead by competing against your peer, winner-takes-all” attitude fostered in us from childhood.
It doesn’t take a long time out in the working world to realize how wrong that is, but i bet when your field happens to be one of the highest paid it takes much longer to see.
After all most people won’t see something they don’t have to, especially if they don’t want to
Hmm. Programming is not really that highly paid in the UK. Have to admit that is why I worked in the US so long.
But you are sorta correct. And the fact that the UK is relatively badly paid compared to software eng jobs in other nations. Added to the media ideals we have seen since the thatcher years. Is likely way so many of the folks I qualified with left the UK to work.
That’s an unhelpful statement, to say the least. If it’s just as necessary to dig ditches as conduct scientific research, then the diggers would be paid at least enough to sustain themselves. But on top of that, scientists aren’t exactly well compensated, either.
Honestly, I’m surprised that anyone would regurgitate that “life is hard” rhetoric anymore. I understand why Sunak would want people to think that’s the only reason this shit is happening, but if you’re not in the ruling class and have a vested interest in maintaining your privilege, why would you say that?
He’s probably a programmer or something. They’re a sector of workers who still have some bargaining power and ok wages. So when their credulous minds are absolutely flooded with that special brand of libright individualism we all get hosed with daily, there is nothing in their personal experience to tell them it is wrong
Ex software engineer myself, retired do to disability several years ago.
To be honest. It was a field with higher left of center views then most. In my 30 year career. I only knew a few right wing programmers. Most were more left then myself. (Blair was a tory stooge to let you know where I stand)
Ah, when i say" libright individualistic flooding" i mean the absolute torrent of propaganda we’re hit with by media in general, not speaking to the political leanings of the programmers.
That whole “work harder, rise above the group, get ahead by competing against your peer, winner-takes-all” attitude fostered in us from childhood.
It doesn’t take a long time out in the working world to realize how wrong that is, but i bet when your field happens to be one of the highest paid it takes much longer to see.
After all most people won’t see something they don’t have to, especially if they don’t want to
Hmm. Programming is not really that highly paid in the UK. Have to admit that is why I worked in the US so long.
But you are sorta correct. And the fact that the UK is relatively badly paid compared to software eng jobs in other nations. Added to the media ideals we have seen since the thatcher years. Is likely way so many of the folks I qualified with left the UK to work.
Eyy ill take that any day of the week.
Thanks for telling me the difference in pay in the UK, didn’t know. why is that? Fewer tech companies in uk or something else?
Software engineer, can confirm