Starfield and Baldur’s Gate 3 both weigh the player down with encumbrance. Love it or hate it, it seems like it’s here to stay.

  • RickRussell_CA
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    181 year ago

    And you’ve got KOTOR and Pillars of Eternity and others that are clearly D&D derivatives, but solve the problem handily with a “stash” whose contents are never accessible in combat.

    I have never understood the fascination with inventory management. I just want to find stuff, and use that stuff later on. If I wanted something as boring as my actual job, I’d just do my actual job and get paid for it instead of buying a game.

    • @Schlock@beehaw.org
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      101 year ago

      In BG3 it is a balance mechanic. Heavy objects tend to be completely OP and are used to cheese combat. encumberance limits this and even allows building your character specifically for this playstyle.

      In Bethesda games encumberance is in part there to protect players from themselves. If every object can be picked up (and that is a design principle in those games) and every object has a Value, then the optimal strategy is always to grab every single object you can find and then sell everything at once. If that does not sound like fun to you that is because it is not, but still i know multiple people who play those games this way even with encumberance in place. Players will always find a way to ruin their own fun, the only hing you can do is to put systems in place that disincentivise these behaviors.

      • @leftzero@lemmy.ml
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        31 year ago

        Heavy objects tend to be completely OP and are used to cheese combat.

        You shut up. Barrelmancy and goblin tossin’ are perfectly legitimate martial arts!

      • RickRussell_CA
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        A “stash” that is only accessible outside combat mostly preserves that balance, IMO.

        Most games come up with a range of ways to get around the problem, even when they do have a strictly limited inventory with encumbrance:

        • Zero weight quest items

        • Ability to run or fast travel while encumbered (FO4 selectable perk)

        • A pet or NPC capable of carrying your less valuable stuff back to the vendor for sale (Torchlight had this, did Diablo? I haven’t played in decades.)

        • Pack animals/robots

        • Portable vendors (Skyrim had a demon vendor you could summon once a day)

        • Bags of holding (or similar)

        • Warp chests (many chests with same contents/inventory around map)

        etc. ad infinitum. The fact that most games implement a variety of ways to deal with absence of an infinite inventory is kind of a tipoff that it’s more of a burden than a desirable aspect of gameplay. Most of these games are holding up a carrot (or several) to get you to pursue certain achievements just to reduce the monotony of inventory management.

    • Just because you don’t like inventory management doesn’t mean others don’t.

      as boring as my actual job

      Again, subjective, considering the popularity of job simulator games, like truck sim.

      • RickRussell_CA
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        11 year ago

        “I” is a first person pronoun that refers to the one who is speaking or writing.